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Going Rate For Buying VF/Ef WLH's

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I am wondering what people are paying to buy 30's and 40's WLH's in VF-EF grade?
The 40's include many S mint coins from 1941-46. I paid on average $10 a coin for 2 rolls and am wondering where that falls. I have been away for about a year and just spent two days at the LCS getting caught up. Always fun to trade paper for silver.

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I'd be a buyer at just under melt, and I'd imagine that's what most of these go for, melt or a slight premium to melt.
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Thanks chasingtailbar. Would you mind telling be what part of the country is selling WLH's for under melt? I have never been lucky enough to find a place selling EF San Fran mint WLH's for $7.50. Getting them under melt, maybe worn ones, but these are full breast plate.

Anyone else finding mid 30's and S mint EF's for under melt? I would like to know how realistic that is before I buy more.
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I pay 15x face for wlh right now and sell for 19x.

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I wouldn't buy to keep, hence why I'd buy just under melt. Flip for melt, make 10 bucks, I'd be happy.

If you're talking common date WLH's in VF-XF, they might be worth a small premium to melt at retail. Maybe 50 cents to a buck over.
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1930's walkers in vf-ef condition for 19x face?

I would buy them all.

1940's walkers I am a bit more discriminating on. I prefer them xf+, and pay the premium for them.

I guess it would depend on how nice the condition is, but full breast plate walkers from the 40's? $10 doesn't sound that bad to me.
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I can buy VF-XF common dates for $7.50-$8.00 each, and I can get a lot of them. Probably a few hundred face. If you just want one or two coins, you're going to pay $10 each... but if you're talking bulk, and yes, two rolls is bulk, you can and should pay a good amount less. From '36 and on, regardless of mintmark, with the exception of the '38-D, they're common in most circulated grades.
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Those years are often bought and sold as bullion but at those grades maybe they will go for closer to their numismatic value. I would suspect them to go for about $10 a piece. I have bought walkers with better dates mixed in them for $10 a piece since that is what I see them going for on ebay all the time. Walkers for some reason don't ever sell close to their listing on Numismedia. I just sold 1920-s for $14 with shipping on ebay, of course the post office lost it was well. If I was to take them to a dealer, they would be melt or 50 cents under melt for them. Just because you can buy something from one unwary seller, doesn't make it worth that.
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Think about it this way, if you sell them on ebay for $10 a coin, shipping costs a buck per coin (individually sold) and fees cost you another buck per coin. At that point, you might as well just sell for $8 each in bulk.
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I listed some walkers earlier dates including 1917-s obverse, 1917-d reverse, and 1919-d. Someone went through all of them and offered me $8 piece. Of course I declined them since I know better. Here is a lot of those coins you speak of I paid $51 for 5 that included 1916-d and a Columbian half.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Silver-Ha...p=true&rt=nc

Personally I would not sell these coins as I would expect them to raise in value in the future. For some reason Walkers aren't going for anywhere near their list price.
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Because list prices are crap, walkers in common dates are just that, common, and aren't worth much more than melt. Your lot for $51 includes a semi-key. I thought we were talking about VF-XF later-date Walkers, anyway? Why are early dates relevant to this discussion?

By the way, I turn down slick, common early-dates with mintmarks for $8 all the time, every week, and usually multiple examples.
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Thanks to all. Interesting info. Where I live you can't even buy Franklins below melt (when you can find them) so I guess it is the luck of where you live.
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I only buy under melt if I'm buying them as part of a larger collection or something, or if I happen to get lucky on ebay. I never see junk silver under melt around here unless it's foreign. Generally there's a couple percent premium, but not much, and that premium accelerates downwards to spot as you buy more volume.

I can buy a $1k face bag for right around $14,800 right now, with spot at 14.69x face.
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FYI it is relevant because I paid $10 a piece and that included a semi-key. Are you now the thread monitor now because you are the authority on buying coins from the unwary? No dealer sells silver for under melt. At most they will round it to the next dollar and charge more if you want specific coins rather than a mix. As far as early dates, that depends on what it is. If it is something with no mint mark of course that isn't 1916 or 1921.
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What are you talking about? You're comparing apples and oranges. That lot doesn't resemble what the OP is talking about because it is a small amount of coins (5 coins?) has a Columbian half, and a semi-key walker. That's nothing like two rolls of 1930's and 1940's Walkers.

Here's a roll of early dates that went for $8.25 a coin;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131256935502

Here's a roll of VF '30's and '40's that went for the same price;
http://www.ebay.com/itm/131250179638

And there's tons more examples on ebay.

Also, buying coins from the unwary? If I pay under melt for junk silver from a collection, it's because I'm shelling out a lot of money... I mean, the biggest collection I ever bought had about $1k in junk silver in it, I paid 95% of melt for the junk silver, sold it for 99% of melt. I think I laid out about $25k on that collection.

And for the record, I pay a heck of a lot better than most dealers in B&M's do because I have no real overhead and it's a hobby to me, not a living.
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Those coins are not EF. They don't have full breast plates. I would grade those F at best and wouldn't pay over $8 a coin. I was talking about true EF coins, hand picked mint marks only.
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