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LMC (1959 - 1998)

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I purchased a old folder for the Memorial cents and decided to fill it with the best coins that I could find for the period from a box that I have on hand. I don't expect to find many BU coins (if any) from 1982 and prior, nor do I expect to find all the coins I need for this period either. I really interested to see what the best conditioned coins from '82 - '98.

I'll post what the results are later in the week.
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 Posted 08/03/2014  01:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shadz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have almost been able to fill a folder like that from each and every box I have gotten. As Long as it doesn't have like all 7 1982 and such in it and is just a normal P&D set folder, then it shouldn't be too hard to fill it all.

small date/large date '60 or 70 or something like that may not in every box, and you might not get all the S mint from '68~'74, but you should easily fill the rest from the box in some condition. You would also be surprised how many nice looking older ones you find. I often find a good plenty form the 60s and 70s that look really nice. '82 will probably be the worst condition ones you find in either copper or zilcoln.
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It takes a little patience, but you'd be surprised what can show up in circulation. Pre-82 coins have about a snowball's chance of retaining their original red color if they circulated, but I used to find a BU coin from the 60s or 70s every few boxes. Plenty of people keep a separate change jar for pennies, and it's not entirely unreasonable that such jars could span back to the 70s or even earlier. My grandfather had six such jars, consisting mostly of circulated 60s/70s and BU 1979-1992 when he used a lot of cash.

With a little patience, I bet you could find everything except the 60 and 70-S small dates in at least AU.
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Cool, can't wait to see your progress. Happy hunting!
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I've found many pre 1982 coins with good luster and almost in mint state but I will admit that many boxes of cents were searched.
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I purchased a old folder for the Memorial cents and decided to fill it with the best coins that I could find for the period from a box that I have on hand. I don't expect to find many BU coins (if any) from 1982 and prior, nor do I expect to find all the coins I need for this period either. I really interested to see what the best conditioned coins from '82 - '98.

I'll post what the results are later in the week.


I'll be especially interested in the later coins as well. I suspect you'll have to settle for some XF's if you want untarnished and unspotted cents. You might be surprised what you find for 1959 to 1964. Beautiful high end coins are often found because people are still releasing rolls of these.
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Actually folks, right now I'm about half way through the box and have filled all the P & D slots for the period from 1983 through '98. The majority of them have some remarkable luster to those coins. I'm still searching but right now I'm throwing all copper into a box for later review and hole filling. In the meantime, I updating '83 - '98. In addition, I'm setting aside the splendid luster coins from '99 through current. I still have to purchase a book for those examples.

But while we're on the topic of books perhaps we can address the state of Whitman books for the Lincoln pennies.

What I would like to do is know if there are Whitman books for just the Wheat backs, just Memorial, and for the new Shield coins. I'm not looking for a book that span the entire period of coins. If this project works out, I plan on doing it again (using Whitman albums) and then putting the better of the coins into a suitable album and then refilling the Whitman albums.

This ought to keep my busy for a little while - maybe the next three or four boxes of pennies.

But you know CladKing I think that you're right about having to settle on lesser coins for the older specimens. The main thing is that I'm interested in finding the best coins that I can from circulation.

I just may in the mood to assemble more albums for nickels, and dimes. However, the one coin that I have no albums for is the Pre-state quarters from 1965 through the onset of the State Quarters.

Perhaps that should be one of the next projects I will have to do. I think that there are enough presentable coins to make that project doable.

This hobby seems to be never ending if a person is looking for a collection of circulating coins.
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Right now I zeroing in on the Brinks boxes, but perhaps I should be looking for the CWR. About a year ago I purchased a collection that was for sale over on another forum. There were so many coins in that purchase that I start and stop sorting them and perhaps I'll get through the coins. I did see that there are a number of Steel pennies that appear to be high grade (real good lookers). I don't feel that I'll get those coins graded but will post some here once I get a camera. Don't own one.
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I had to have 1 book for 41~58 wheats, another for 59~82 copper, then found a Warmans for 82~2013 zilcolns.

Sadly the closest you can get is the LMC folder that starts 1959 because the only other folder Whitman had was the 41~74 or something like that, so there will be overlap or holes in one of them. :(
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Well, I've finished searching the box pennies that was to be my basis for this little experiment. Here are the results:

1. I was unable to find any copper San Francisco coins - will have to either look at additional boxes or the tubes of San Francisco coins that I currently have.

2: The only coin that I knowingly did not find was the 1959 Philadelphia strike. Will keep looking for that coin.

3: All copper coins from 1959 - 1981 found are in real rough shape. Cladking was right about that. Perhaps continually upgrading will be of some benefit.

4: When I started this short-term project I really did not look at the slots for the 1982 coins. The non-copper coins that I put back into circulation were not reviewed in terms of large and small dates. Therefore this step will have to be attempted again upon the completion of my next box.

5: As a measure of my knowledge of pennies I can say that the folder did not have any slots for San Francisco coins for the last part of the period under review. The majority of the Philadelphia and Denver coins for this period were of very passable collecting patina. That is not to say that future upgrading would be waste of time, but in fact that could be the subject of a continuing effort.

What did I learn: This buttressed my faith that collectible penny coins can still be found for this period subject to someone willing to continue to upgrade the album.

So my next step in the penny collection to review my stash of Wheat Backed pennies to see exactly what I have in the line of the making of collection. I know that in the stash of over 1,500 Wheats there are coins that date back to the beginning of series and dating to end of the Wheat era. It will be interesting to see what I have. The question is do I do it now, or do I wait for awhile. We'll see.

Another step would be to start a circulated album from 1999 through the end of Memorial series and into the Shield era. Possibly the making of two coin albums.

The end of the beginning.
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 Posted 08/05/2014  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got 2 more boxes and will still be trying to upgrade. Off to the coin shop tomorrow to try and get:

1: Whitman coin folders for the pennies.
2: 20th century type set album
3: New Dansco album for Jefferson's and proofs, Sac album, Whitman album for presidential dollard.
4: Expedition for Indian head pennies, Barber dimes, and Seated dimes that I don't have.
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Thanks for the update.

I'm actually a little surprised that there isn't at least one really nice '59- '64 issue.

Would you call the best set you put together mostly XF up to '82, mostly AU through '07 (but with a little spotting, and a few Uncs after '07?
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I actually found the '59 specimen in the first roll of the next box (rough but was upgraded nicely later in the box. There appears to be hosts of decent collectible '83 and prior out there that will make someone a real decent or respectible album.

I have since upgraded many of the '59 - '81 coins to specimens that have a fair amount of original color (this really surprised me). This project is still ongoing (for now) and quite possibly I will do another album.

The most disconcerting thing about this project was that of the 4th of July I went to a fairly decently attended coin show were there was a dealer who was selling this series in Whitman albums for between $7 and $9 depending upon the overall grade. So I think that I saved myself $5 on the set that I put together myself.

Satisfying to say the least.

I have to say that I still haven't found a lot of the San Francisco coins but am still looking. When I find the last of them, then I'll most likely start another album for kicks.

As far a condition is concerned I'd have to agree with cladking on how he called the condition.

Since I also collect copper, I'm quite certain that I have some real gems hidden away that will be for my kids, their kids, or someone else to search. Once I roll the coppers up in a roll I'm finished with them. I probably shouldn't be that way, but I am.
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