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I am trying to learn a little about white balance. First my camera set up is a canon T4i with a EF 100mm macro IS USM. I have a three ott lights which I normally use 2 of at 10 & 2. I shoot remotely with camera tethered to laptop and a HD flat screen for fine focusing.

The first pic was taken in macro mode which basically only gives you auto or manual focus. I use Manual.

The second pic has the same lighting but camera is set to AV. I now increases the F to 9 and the iso down to 100.

I like the second pic but the NGC slab insert should be white. I have heard whit balance can be corrected in editing but I can't find it. I use adobe photoshop 11.


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 Posted 08/12/2014  2:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaytR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
To make it easier you can shoot pictures in RAW then open the file in Phot5oshop which loads up Adobe Camera Raw > then look at the adjustments pane around the area were it says Temperature > that is the general area were you can adjuct & select white balance.There should be a little eye dropper button you can click and use if color casts are a issue.

By shooting in RAW you have better leverage when it comes to the white balance you want for your images
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I don't use photoshop- I do most of my photo editing in GIMP, which is basically a free version of photoshop. So, I'm not sure how well these instructions will translate to Photoshop. In GIMP, if you go to "Colors", then "Levels" you will see a heading titled "All Channels" and under that 3 droppers (one black, one gray, one white). You can use these to set the WB. For example, if you click the white dropper, then click on a white area in your photograph (or what should be white, like the NGC slab), it will adjust the WB so that the slab becomes white. You can do the same with the black dropper and an area on your photo that should be black. The middle gray dropper is if you are using a neutral gray card or something similar.
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Which Ott lights? The older CFL style or the newer LED. Both have some oddities in their spectrums and it's possible your camera is more or less sensitive in one of those areas.

Google for images under "ott light spectrum", e.g. http://www.drycreekphoto.com/images...tCompare.gif
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Alp I think photoshop has something similar. I never used it because I didn't realize it adjusted white balance. I thought it only let you change the color of the area you clicked,

I have both types of ott lights. The two I always use, one diffused and one not, are LED. The third looks like a desk lamp with a six inch narrow fluorescent light

I imagine if I edit in raw I can still save it as a jpeg to put in photobucket.
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 Posted 08/12/2014  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just use the custom white balance "eye dropper" on the NGC slab prongs right before taking the pic.
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All good advice. Thanks
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I've been using the RAW/Photoshop method as described above. I usually then adjust the temp, brightness, exposure etc while looking at the coin in hand. It a bit hard to get exactly right, but you can avoid blue or yellowish results, and make the best match possible.

What interesting is how different the coin looks in hand depending what light you use to view it with. So the 'actual' color of the coin may be a bit of a philosophical question, :-)
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In the guided section of photoshop you can select "remove a color cast". You can use the eyedropper on a white black or grat area of pic.
and all colors are corrected.
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