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Great news for the evil sellers!

Does not reign in the evil buyers?


Will honest sellers jack up prices to cover the extra cost of evil buyers?


Updates to the ebay User Agreement, User Privacy Notice, and Money Back Guarantee



We are writing to let you know about updates to the ebay User Agreement, User Privacy Notice (formerly known as Privacy Policy), and Money Back Guarantee (formerly known as Buyer Protection Policy). The updated User Agreement, User Privacy Notice, and Money Back Guarantee were posted on http://www.ebay.com on August 12, 2014.

The updated User Agreement is effective September 15, 2014, or upon acceptance for users who accept it via electronic click-through prior to September 15, 2014. The User Privacy Notice and Money Back Guarantee are effective immediately for new users and on September 15, 2014, for current users.

ebay User Agreement

Key updates to the ebay User Agreement:

Using ebay. Updates were made to clarify that users shall not use ebay's or other users' content without permission. This section has also been updated to indicate steps ebay may take to address abuse of its services and to make it clear that ebay may terminate or refuse service to anyone at its sole discretion.

Listing Conditions. This section has been updated to reflect that content that violates our policies may be deleted at our discretion.

Purchase Conditions. This section has been updated to make it clear that when you purchase an item on an ebay site other than ebay.com, you are subject to the User Agreement of that other site with respect to that purchase.

Translation. We augmented this section to indicate that, when automated translation tools are available, you direct us to use them to translate your listings into local languages and to provide you with access to translations of other users' listings.

Recording Calls. ebay may monitor or record telephone conversations with ebay or its agents for quality control and training purposes or for its own protection.

Returns. We updated this section to clarify that if ebay hassle-free returns are applied to your listings, you authorize ebay to remove the refund amount from your PayPal account, place the amount on your invoice, and/or charge your payment method on file. By the 2015 holiday season, all eligible domestic returns on ebay will be ebay hassle-free returns and sellers may not remove hassle-free return settings from their listings. We updated this section also to reflect this future change.

Global Shipping Program. We updated this section to underscore that for eligible listings for which you have not previously specified an international shipping option, buyers from select countries will be shown an International Priority Shipping option with end-to-end international tracking plus an estimate of associated import charges which will be confirmed for and paid by your buyer at checkout. If a buyer from one of the select countries purchases your eligible item, you simply ship the item to a US shipping center. Once accepted at the US shipping center, a global shipping provider handles the international shipping, customs clearance, and delivery of the item to your international buyer. Sellers are not responsible for any loss or damage during the international leg of the shipment; buyers take on compliance responsibility for the export and import shipment.

Money Back Guarantee. We updated this section to reflect changes in the Money Back Guarantee, specifically that sellers are responsible for return shipping costs if an item is not as described and that, if an eBay-generated return shipping label is used for return shipping on items not as described, we place the return shipping label cost on the seller's invoice.

Agreement to Arbitrate. With limited exception, all issues with respect to disputes between you and ebay will continue to be decided by binding arbitration on an individual, non-class, non-representative basis, unless you have opted out under the terms of the Agreement to Arbitrate. Updates made to the Agreement to Arbitrate include the following:

You may assert claims in small claims court, if your claims qualify, so long as the matter remains in such court and advances only on an individual, non-class, non-representative basis.
The arbitrator will decide all issues except issues regarding whether a dispute is subject to arbitration, the scope or enforceability of the Agreement to Arbitrate, or the interpretation of Section 1 of the Agreement to Arbitrate, which will all be issues a court, not the arbitrator, will decide.
In the interest of ensuring that you and ebay may provide each other an opportunity to work out any disputes between us before resorting to arbitration, you and ebay must send each other a Notice of Dispute that explains the nature of the dispute before initiating arbitration. If the dispute is not resolved within 30 days of sending the notice, arbitration may then be initiated.



ebay User Privacy Notice

Key updates to the ebay User Privacy Notice:

Name Change. We updated the ebay Privacy Policy to be more user-friendly and easier to read, starting with its name. Going forward, it will be called the User Privacy Notice. This name change does not reduce or change any of our commitments or responsibilities under the former Privacy Policy.

Organization. We organized the sections and their titles to make our practices more clear and transparent.

Summary Section. We added a summary section to the notice that allows you to quickly refer to key aspects of the notice and our privacy practices, and then links them directly to the more detailed sections, should you want to find out more information about an individual section or privacy practice.

Icons. The most visible change to the Privacy Notice is the addition of icons for each section and the corresponding privacy practices to enable quick, visual navigation.



ebay Money Back Guarantee

Key updates to the ebay Money Back Guarantee:

Consistent After-Sale Experience. We updated the policy to reflect that we're simplifying the after-sale experience for buyers and sellers with a new improved return process that gives buyers a more convenient and consistent way to return itemsâ€"right from My ebay. Many of our sellers who use ebay hassle-free returns are paying for return shipping on faulty or not-as-described items. Starting September 15, an initial group of sellers, (and after a transition period, all remaining sellers) will be responsible for return shipping on items which are faulty or not-as-described. Many sellers are facilitating returns for faulty or not as described items, but for those sellers who choose not to facilitate a return or provide a return shipping label for a faulty or not as described item, we may refund their buyers without requiring the buyers to return the item, and in turn seek reimbursement from sellers.

Timelines. We updated the policy to clarify timelines for buyers and sellers when an item isn't received or isn't as described in the listing. For items that offer hassle-free returns, ebay will automatically issue a refund after the refund deadline has passed. When sellers offer extended return timeframes that are longer than the standard ebay Money Back Guarantee protection window, eligibility will be extended to protect these returns when sellers don't refund buyers in accordance with their return policy.

Local Pick-up or Freighted Items. We updated the policy to clarify that items damaged during pick-up or shipping, or not delivered when the buyer has arranged pick-up or freight, are not covered under the ebay Money Back Guarantee. We refer buyers to work with the freight company in such instances.

Appeals. We shortened the window for appeals from 45 days to 30 days after we make a decision about a transaction issue.



As with previous updates, other changes have been made to keep the User Agreement, User Privacy Notice, and Money Back Guarantee up-to-date with our product and service offerings. We encourage you to review the updated ebay User Agreement, User Privacy Notice, and Money Back Guaranteeâ€"they will apply to your account as of the dates noted above. If you choose not to accept the updated terms, visit this help page for further direction.

Thank you for being a part of the ebay Community.

Sincerely,

The ebay Team

eBay
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 Posted 08/14/2014  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bassmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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We updated this section to reflect changes in the Money Back Guarantee, specifically that sellers are responsible for return shipping costs if an item is not as described and that, if an eBay-generated return shipping label is used for return shipping on items not as described, we place the return shipping label cost on the seller's invoice.


Are you kidding me. This would be alright if they actually looked at the sellers case instead of always deciding in the buyers favor.
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 Posted 08/14/2014  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did you see where if an item is "not as described" the buyer can keep it and ebay will automatically refund the money!?

Wow, NO chance for misuse there! We all know there are going to be buyers that get free stuff from now on!

"Oh, I'm sorry that 1893-S Morgan that you sold me as an XF is really a VF, thank you for the free coin!"
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 Posted 08/14/2014  11:12 am  Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add RK55 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
and, if you do not sign and accept the user agreement, there is a place to click on user "help page" you can click.(see below)

when you click this link it brings you to the "closing your account" page.


We encourage you to review the updated ebay User Agreement, User Privacy Notice, and Money Back Guaranteeâ€"they will apply to your account as of the dates noted above. If you choose not to accept the updated terms, visit this help page for further direction.

Managed returns will be mandatory as of Sept 2015. all users will be opted in for the Global Shipping program, you will have to opt out as they did in the past.You will have to pay attention to your site preferences and check each listing to make sure it is not showing you ship internationally.



this whole new policy is going to bring in more scammers than the site has now.
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this whole new policy is going to bring in more scammers than the site has now.


At the risk of blaming picky-obnoxious-evil buyers...

They will kill off the evil sellers They will kill off the honest sellers They will drive up the cost of coins on ebay.


Why?

The cost of evil buyers will add to the cost of business
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Did you see where if an item is "not as described" the buyer can keep it and ebay will automatically refund the money!?

Wow, NO chance for misuse there! We all know there are going to be buyers that get free stuff from now on!

"Oh, I'm sorry that 1893-S Morgan that you sold me as an XF is really a VF, thank you for the free coin!"


This would be histerical, if it was not so pathetic
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 Posted 08/14/2014  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add moneditis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
ebay just need more buyers.
Sellers are not really important
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"Oh, I'm sorry that 1893-S Morgan that you sold me as an XF is really a VF, thank you for the free coin!"


or.....I'm sorry, that 1893-S Morgan that you sold me as VF is really XF, thank you for the free coin!
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Just more of the "disruptive innovation" that ebay generates 2x a year. They have rattled the cages and the natives are restless. The community boards on ebay are "smoking" with discontent with this latest Seller Update.

I've been selling on ebay for about 12 years. The changes over the years do not surprise me but they do make me alter my selling metrics. Mainly no more high dollar items, just nickel and dime stuff. I will stop selling Oct 31st and will start selling again Jan 1st because of the extended Holiday return period they are pushing. That's really a good time of the year to be away from ebay anyway when you think about it.

Everybody has got to do what works best for them.

My ebay motto is "don't list it if you can't afford to lose it!"
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westernsky


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I will stop selling Oct 31st and will start selling again Jan 1st because of the extended Holiday return period they are pushing.


Hope ebay chokes on their insanity here.

The idea of a sellers inventory being off the self in limbo land for 60 days is beyond laughable.

As high dollar coin sales wane, think ebay will wise up

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Many sellers are facilitating returns for faulty or not as described items, but for those sellers who choose not to facilitate a return or provide a return shipping label for a faulty or not as described item, we may refund their buyers without requiring the buyers to return the item, and in turn seek reimbursement from sellers.


What should I be thinking when I see the word "facilitate"...?
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ebay just need more buyers.
Sellers are not really important


Yeah, that is basically what they are saying. However, they should do a study to see who is on/deals with ebay the most. Buyers or sellers. Sellers would win big time. Without sellers ebay shuts down. We can still list stuff even if it doesn't sell.
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 Posted 08/15/2014  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Weerdsteeve...

I think when ebay is saying "facilitate" they are saying that WE (as Sellers) WILL "accept" a return no matter what the issue. If we refuse, or complain about it, they will make the refund out of ebay's pocket and then bill us for it. The scary thing is the Buyer getting to keep the item AND getting their money back! A whole new ball game for scamming buyers.

Result for me? No listing of high dollar items.

Domain555....

Will ebay wise up?

I seriously doubt it. They focus group this stuff and know exactly how Sellers are going to react long before the "Fall Seller Update" is announced. They know and plan for Sellers to quit. They will thin the ranks like they do every year and then go on with business as usual. The Sellers will slowly return with tail between their legs ready to be pimped some more by ebay.

Until a viable site with a huge user base emerges ebay can do what they want to, when they want to.

Result for me? Vacation between October 31st and December 25th.


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Let's not panic just yet.

I wonder if maybe because the economy is better now...well, the stock market is up anyway, that ebay is catering more to buyers because there's money to spend. Let's see what happens if there is a serious recession.


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we MAY refund their buyers without requiring the buyers to return the item, and in turn seek reimbursement from sellers.


The new policy says MAY, not 'will' refund....without requiring..

I'd like to see that happen one time. Then it's time to panic

Of course if you are a big time scammer seller, ebay won't touch you. Only the little guy has to worry.
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I don't sell that much on ebay and have been fortunate to deal with good buyers/sellers 99.9% on the time. I am not that concerned with this change. The buyer still needs a SNAD to go through for this to be a problem for the seller.
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I am not an ebay seller, just a buyer. I think with recent policy changes and these pending changes I am going to just skip ebay altogether. I really do not need the bay anymore as it is, I have managed to build a nice reputation in the local community as a buyer who will pay a fair price, or at least find another buyer willing to do the same. I am fielding more and more calls from people wanting to sell, so ebay will just be an afterthought for me.
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