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Hi Forum, This is my first post at this forum and I'm starting with a Question for all or any. I recently aquired a rather large coin collection, with bags of loose US coins. I decided to go ahead and organize the collection and as I was recording dates and mint marks I found a 1964D Kennedy half dollar with 3 odd (Raised) markings on it. The mark looks like an "X" that was scribed in the die before the planchet was struck. I have searched the entire Web looking for a simular error and the only thing that comes close is a canceled die mark. If anyone can help me with this error coin I would greatly appreciate it.   |
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Pillar of the Community
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post mint damage. someone had more time on their hands than they needed
Gary
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New Member
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Sorry I didn't specify the locations of the marks.....behind Kennedys head and on each side of the Eagles wings.
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New Member
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Hi Gary,
I would have thought so too if the marks were not raised above the face. It looks like the die was altered.
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Pillar of the Community
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someone else will have to get to you on this one I have never heard of it.
Good Luck
Gary
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Pillar of the Community
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Raised?! Quite intriguing. Could you zoom into one of the marks on the back of the coin for us?
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Pillar of the Community
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Looks like graffiti to me...
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Pillar of the Community
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Me too atlas, but since it's raised, it wouldn't be.
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OK here is the best shot of the error as I can get. I have no idea how someone could fake this without a die. It's too perfect. Notice that there is no marring or damage to the ajoining details. Even the spacing of the crosses are identical. Thanks, Mark  |
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Nice pictures! You really prove your point that it's not post-mint damage to the coin.
I'm hoping one of the many experts here can assist!
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Is anyone aware of a way to contact the mint or someone there to get more information on the dies for the 64 Kennedy half? Maybe the Denver mint directly. I'm thinking this was a coin (Test) that was struck on a die set that was being removed from service and was not intended to leave the mint. I feel very strongly that this is not a fake. It's just so odd to find this in circulation. Thanks, Mark |
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I think we're just all stumped Mark. There is nothing that is telling me that the coin is damaged or faked.
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I am in no way saying this is what has happened in this case but I have seen post mint damage (deep scratch on the coin) after some wear fold over the scratch and look like a raised area kind of like what we are seeing on this coin, after it circulates for awhile the raised edges from the moved metal just fold over the scratch and hide it and it looks like it is something the die has done. Like I said I am in no way saying that is what happened here, just stating I have seen it happen before. I would expect a canceled die to have bigger "X's" than your coin shows so there would be no mistake the die wasn't supposed to be used
Edited by Bryan1315
08/21/2007 11:58 am
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It is after Mint damage. Think about this for a second...Depending upon the instrument used (in this case probably an exacto knife, When you cut into the metal with a sharp blade, you dont remove metal, you just move the metal. A raised line would be the result of the metal moving to one side of the blade.
They did not strike any coins with X's in them...
The other outside possibility is that someone used a punch on the coin after it left the mint.
Either way, it is not a Mint Error.
Thanks,
Bill
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The two marks appear to have the exact same size, shape, and angle with respect to one another. My vote is a counterpunch with an X shaped tool. I haven't seen the coin in person, but by viewing the images and knowing what I do about coinage, I have to say the marks are sunk into the field of the coin - they cannot be raised. Sometimes lighting can give the illusion they are raised, and that's probably what its owner is seeing.
Without a doubt this was done after the coin left the mint. It's post-mint damage.
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Hey Guys,
The marks have been confirmed to me by a local dealer as a post mint impression. Although a fine deception, it is someones prank. Thanks to all of you for your help though. I honestly couldn't beleive that this coin could have been real, but couldn't see anything to proove it fake. But one thing good turned up from all of this......The dealer also confirmed a good 37D Three Legged Buffalo I found in the same lot of coins. Now I need to send it in to have it graded.
Thanks again,
Mark
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Posted 08/20/2007 7:23 pm
