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What Is Up With This 1854 Half Dime?

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Several things seem to being going on with this 1854 dime. Several die clashes, Obverse rim is weakly struck?

Any thoughts?
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I haven't constructed an overlay, but a clash would be my guess as well. Maybe the obverse die is off-axis to the reverse as well.
I'm also struck how the top of the date was impressed into the base of Liberty--is that a common variety?
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http://blog.davidlawrence.com/index...-half-dimes/

Maybe this will help provide some answers

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Ok, so looks like the date overlapping the base is listed as V-1 which is an R-4. The strong die clashes on both sides are V-2 and V-3a but I don't see a mention of all 3 on one coin. Are we perhaps looking at an unlisted variety here. Any specilists if varieties on the forum?
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The die clash on the obverse, next to liberty's elbow, looks like the banner from the capped bust dime reverse.
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Ok, so looks like the date overlapping the base is listed as V-1 which is an R-4. The strong die clashes on both sides are V-2 and V-3a but I don't see a mention of all 3 on one coin.

Look again at the description of the V-1 on the link Meadowviewcollector posted. The last line, "Die clashes obv and reverse."
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So does that make this a V-1, R4?
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Here's another ... any clarification on the variety?


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What-Is-Up-With-This-1854-Half-Dime?
Here is an overlay
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Interesting overlay pic there, Coop.

I just now got to wondering if Breen listed the 1854 embedded date in his Encyclopedia. Sure enough, it's therein as Breen #3069 which he listed as V-1 and "rare."

Looking at the ebay listings, I was able to spot four of these "high date" 1854's among a few hundred listings, so it appears to be at least a scarce variety.
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