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 Posted 09/04/2014  9:25 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add wertyl63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
How do you tell original commemoratives from the 1800"s from a new re-issue coin when your looking at coins that are out of there original mint packaging and have some age on them.When I say new I mean re-issues that are now 50 or 60 years old.Thanks you for your help.
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 Posted 09/04/2014  9:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ASEnut to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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 Posted 09/04/2014  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
None of the US commemorative coins from the classic era (1892-1954) were ever re-issued decades later.

Can you give a few specific examples of what coins you are referring to? It would certainly help us provide you with appropriate answers.


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 Posted 09/05/2014  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wertyl63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for your help.I was under the impression that some of the older commemoratives first half of the 1800"s before 1892 were re-issued by the mint.A example would be my first forum where I was writing about the S.S.San Francisco Congressional life saving medal of 1866.Some of the sellers have described these as mint re- issues. They all seem to be in really great condition for a original 1866 coin.One is PCGS graded to MS63 Maybe they are just guessing I see these listed for sale from $139.00 - $1,000.00. I realize condition may have something to do with the price spread.Thanks again for info you can come up with.
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OK, I think I may better understand your question now.

First thing to clear up is the distinction between "coins" and "medals." While the US Mint doesn't re-strike coins years after their release, it does re-strike medals that are part of its core list. They have been doing that since the 1800s.

One of the easiest ways to distinguish between older versions of its medals and more modern re-strikes is to look at their color. An original, undamaged bronze medal from the 1800s will generally have a nice, rich, "chocolately" color while a modern piece will look yellowish or golden. The color difference is due to the metal composition used for creating the planchets.

Feel free to post a picture or two of a medal you have a question about.




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 Posted 09/05/2014  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wertyl63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here are two pictures of the medal. This is the medal I own and am trying to find out when it was minted,If the medal was re-issued. When and how many etc. Thank you again.

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Its beautifull!!
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Nice pics too.
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The medal is very lovely ... hopeful that some of our experts can support your inquiry.

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 Posted 09/07/2014  4:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on the posted image, I would say that your medal is a re-strike vs. an original. It has the look a 1960s era Mint product.


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commems, Thanks for the info.I still need to know when the originals were struck, how many, and if it was re-struck when and how many.I don't mean to be lazy about this, and have everybody do my research for me.I have looked and looked at other people's listings for this and searched the net for weeks.I cannot find any CONCRETE INFO. References,about this medal other then what it was for, and who the sculptor was.Thanks again.
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Judd1552 provided some answers in your other thread https://goccf.com/t/185685

The source he quoted was a reference book titled: Medals of the United States Mint, The First Century 1792-1892 by R.W. Julian. It is rather pricey at $100+ for a copy but he provided the info it contained about the medal. It's copyrighted 1977 and I'm unaware of a newer book that covers this subject.

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 Posted 09/07/2014  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wertyl63 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you Meadowview collector.The first post was moved to this forum. I never went back to the original post. I didn't know that Judd1552 had posted an answer on the first post.
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 Posted 09/08/2014  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add commems to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just to add a bit to Judd1552's informative post...

25 bronze medals were struck in 1868 (along with three gold). They continued to be re-struck from time to time for the next 100+ years. The US Mint has not typically published mintage figures for these types of medals, so the estimates of knowledgeable dealers and collectors are the best one can expect. It is likely that hundreds of re-strikes have been produced over the years.

The Mint was selling re-strikes of the medal into the mid-1970s (at least) for $6.00.

As I noted before, I believe the piece you presented is one of the re-strikes.


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commems, Thanks again.
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