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Sales Tax In Coin Stores

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I have recently noticed that some dealers charge sales tax on the coins or paper money that you purchase. Why is this? I thought that it was illegal to charge sales tax on U.S. currency. Thoughts?

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 Posted 08/22/2007  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lonnie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Law in Ohio is that coins are taxable. Even on ebay if I purchase a coin and it happens to be a dealer, I do have to pay the state tax.
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I have to pay tax on coins in California as well. However, for some reason they never charge sell's tax at coin shows.
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In Texas if the value is over $1000 no tax, no mater what the value under $1000 you don't pay sales tax on the face value of the coins
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No tax here is Michigan, at least I have never paid any at the coin shows and stores
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Tax on numismatics varies from state to state. Some tax up to or over a certain dollar amount and others, like my state of Missouri, charge no tax at all.
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I do not pay tax on coin in Idaho, I do have to pay sales tax for Supplies thought. The dealer was telling me the reason Idaho doesn't pay taxes is because we have Silver Mines that are minning silver so since we have that there is a law tht says you do not pay Sales tax on coins. I am not sure if it is the same in other states but that is why in Idaho
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Strangely enough, I heard one of the guys in my local coin store explain this just last Saturday.

I'm in Texas, so anything over $1000 is tax free. The difference is; if you spend $999.99, the State declares that you are purchasing for the purpose of collecting. Sales Tax is charged. However, if you purchase $1000.00, the State declares that you are -investing.- No Sales Tax.

The $1000.00 is an arbitrary number really.
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For any state, you should be able to deduct the face value of the coin. That's just, for example, getting change for a dollar.
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The funny part of buying coins in Texas was that it didn't matter what you bought, it just had to be over $1000 to be tax exempt.
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Sales tax is sales tax, weather it's coins or gumballs.
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Thank you very much. I found that "if you spend $999.99, the State declares that you are purchasing for the purpose of collecting. Sales Tax is charged. However, if you purchase $1000.00, the State declares that you are -investing.- No Sales Tax." (ElleKitty) was pretty interesting. I'm not sure if its that way in CT but i'll ask.

Thanks again!
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quote:
I thought that it was illegal to charge sales tax on U.S. currency

You thought wrong. Lots of people think that, and I've never understood where they get that idea from.
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Yes, every state has its own laws. California is like many states that charge tax on any purchase under $1000.00
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Here in Michigan bullion purchases are not taxable at any amount, so one of my local dealers sells a lot of "bullion".
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So if I sell you a dollar for a dollar, do some of you think some states charge sales tax on that transaction? If you go in to a store and ask for 4 quarters for a dollar, should they charge sales tax on that transaction?

In Texas, if it's legal tender, and you pay $13 for a Morgan, you pay sales tax on the $12 portion that's not just getting change for a dollar. I think you would be hard-pressed to find a state where that wouldn't stand up in court. Granted, this is only a tiny deduction.
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