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Burnished And Proof ASEs

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I ordered and received one of the "burnished" 2007 American Silver Eagles. I have to admit it is one sharp looking piece.

I've been collecting the bullion pieces for a number of years and have accumulated quite a few of them. They're nice enough but from a numismatic perspective, they're not the way to go.

From now on I'm in for the burnished and proofs. Their cost ordered from the mint, $22 and $29 is reasonable and comparably much less then mint issued commemorative dollars. And who can argue that the ASE design is not one of the beautiful images of Liberty depicted on a coin?

I haven't done my homework yet, not sure what the annual mintages have been on the burnished and proofs, info is probably in the Red Book.

I like it when my collecting branches out in new directions, keeps things fresh.
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 Posted 08/23/2007  06:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tights24 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm with you TS. I really like proof specimens. I haven't received my burnished yet. Actually, I'm not sure if I ordered it

Regardless, you never know what will pique your interest, and it seems like you found a relatively inexpensive choice for a yearly series.
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 Posted 08/23/2007  12:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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I haven't done my homework yet, not sure what the annual mintages have been on the burnished


The burnished W Eagles debuted last year. They were included in the 20th Anniv 3 coin Silver Eagle and 2 coin Gold and Silver Eagle sets and were also sold individually. The total mintage across all formats was 470,000 making it the key non-proof Silver Eagle. For comparison, the previous key was the 1996 bullion with 3.6 million minted. They will probably mint a few more this year but mintage will still be limited. Last I saw, the sales total so far was about 450,000. I got lucky and purchased two last year and they sell for $100+ now I should have purchased 100 with that price increase...
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 Posted 08/23/2007  12:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add inacoffeebuzz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I know the burnished versions (for silver) were just started last year when they were released in the 20th anniversary set and then as single coins (in boxes). I would have greater appreciation for it if it didn't just seem like a gimmick to sell yet another version of the ASE. Since I have all the Uncs and Proofs I feel compelled to get them , but then that's the bain of this hobby - addiction .
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 Posted 08/23/2007  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yesterday my dealer said the burnished 2006 W is now selling for $200.00.
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 Posted 08/24/2007  4:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sagan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Their cost ordered from the mint, $22 and $29 is reasonable and comparably much less then mint issued commemorative dollars.

The commemoratives usally sell more because they add surcharges that are donated to a cause. Like the Little Rock commemorative has a surcharge that is donated for "the protection, preservation, and interpretation of resources and stories associated with Little Rock Central High School National Historic Site, including site improvements at Little Rock Central High School National Historic Site, development of interpretive and education programs and historic preservation projects, and the establishment of cooperative agreements to preserve or restore the historic character of the Park Street and Daisy L. Gatson Bates Drive corridors adjacent to the site."
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 Posted 08/24/2007  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSmith3510 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Aw nuts! So if I want to have a "complete" burnished set I have to backfill the '06 for $200!

I hate when that happens. Same thing with the '99 silver proof quarters. Oh well.
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 Posted 08/25/2007  12:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sagan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can still do a date set, there is still a 2006 from Philly that goes for $16 normally. Much like the Proofs, where getting a 1995-W is just insane, but there is still a 1995-P to fill in the date...
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 Posted 08/25/2007  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have a complete date set of the ASE's, but haven't really looked into how close I am to having all the proofs. I'm sure I don't have all of them, but I should have most. Getting all my ASE's together when I'm not busy will be a good project for me!
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 Posted 08/26/2007  04:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gary, in addtion to that I'm still looking forward to the day when you have a site of all your collected items! I have not forgotten.
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The ASEs are very pretty coins, but I just don't understand the premiums some people pay for bullion. It's one thing spending $25 or so for a proof because it's pretty, but the 1996 coins (as someone said, this is a modern bullion coin with OVER 3 MILLION MINTED) are sold for $50 - $70. No way. (For comparison, most years had about 4 million minted instead of 3.5 million - is that worth a 300% premium?)

And the 20th anniversary sets - $500 for 3 ounces of silver? Sorry. I'll keep collecting my ASEs for close to spot.........
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thingee,

I promise to do that one day.

I am proud of them. Only bad thing is it's tough to store everything. Just today I was looking through the autographed pictures, and showing friends a few -- Mickey Mantle, Marilyn Monroe, King Juan Carlos, and Presidents Truman. Kennedy, Johnson, Ford, Carter, Clinton, and both Bushes.

I love to collect.

And, coins are my No. 1 collectible.
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The ASEs are very pretty coins, but I just don't understand the premiums some people pay for bullion.

Honestly, how different is it then paying premium for any coin? Why pay $5,000 for cent, or $1000 for a recent error coin? I can't see why it's just cause it's bullion lessens the collector value at all...
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The ASEs are very pretty coins, but I just don't understand the premiums some people pay for bullion. It's one thing spending $25 or so for a proof because it's pretty, but the 1996 coins (as someone said, this is a modern bullion coin with OVER 3 MILLION MINTED) are sold for $50 - $70. No way. (For comparison, most years had about 4 million minted instead of 3.5 million - is that worth a 300% premium?)




It is really all about supply and demand. ASE date sets are very popular because it is one of the easiest date sets to complete and certainly the most impressive set you can assemble for under $500. Since 1996 had the lowest mintage, it has the most demand.

Also one thing to remember- the numbers of ASEs minted is a bit deceptive. Since the Eagle programs were initially created as an investment vehicle, many gold and silver Eagles are locked into investment accounts and out of the coin collecting market.
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 Posted 08/27/2007  1:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thingee to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As long as your autographed photos are out, Gary, why don't you start with those?
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