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My Biggest Purchase So Far. Roll Of 1909-VDBs Lots Of DDOs?

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 Posted 09/09/2014  07:24 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 6thCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Ok so I went to the Long Beach Coin show and after doing the ebay thing and having to do returns etc. I decided to see what I could get into at the show and not buy on ebay until I know of the trusted sellers members here recommend.

So I found this booth with an old man and his wife. I saw that they had a lot of rolls and tubes of solid years. What caught my attention were two tubes barked "'09 VDB". First thing that runs through my mind is these were probably packed when everyone assumed '09 was 1909... Sure enough they were packed years ago and put away.

I ask how much, the gentleman pulls out his book and gives me good bid price $500. Call me crazy but I trusted him even more when he told me that they didn't use a credit card machine. I told him I would go to the ATM and be right back. I hurry as the pace is emptying and trek all the way across the hall to ATM (I had reached my withrdawal limit on one card and was short $10 even with the other one on me!) I make my way back in a hurry and figuring out a nice way to ask for $10 off, the guy was pretty set on $500 he said they were mostly fine and better. So I get there and they remember my name like places did in the old days (the 80's for me, LOL). He begrudgingly accepts my offer of $490 and I choose one of the two, politely without opening them, only an outside cursory look...

I walk a few booths down make a left them a right, lol so as not to alert them that I was checking what they gave me... I really just wanted to check out the top few and wait till I got home for a detailed inspection. I see that the first one had a very heavy bold date and the Liberty letters were fat and wavy on the sides, from my new knowledge I've gained from the members here and the wealth of information here.... I said hmmm I think that's a double die, let me check another one, and the next one also looked really heavy... The next was the same and I just put them away and said I have to see if there are known varieties and what the indicators were.

So I get home and do some research and I find the 1909-VDB DDO
FS1101 and FS1102. So I go to the tube and I start puling the coins out one at a time and one after the next they look like one of the two varieties. Now It wasn't EVERY coin but I would say the majority have font issues and I think fall under one of the two varieties.

I'm a novice so I'm not sure about anything really, I checked for the second nine and the B & R and checked for a die clash mark(whatever that is!) under his chin... Those were the ways I would determine, after deciding they looked like DD, if they were type 2 or not.

So after all the talking I would like to show you my find and ask for your opinions on how many you think are DDOs and what I should do next. I was thinking of getting them graded but who offers a bulk rate on 50? Or should I give them to a company I just consigned 50 1955-S BU to be graded then auctioned?

Anyway, I hope I'm right, at least on a few of these! I would attribute this to these varieties being recently certified? I read that somewhere just now.

I'll be posting a few in the grading area to see what you guys think. Please let me know what you guys think and if you have suggestions on which ones to post in the grading area.

Link to the full galleryhttp://postimg.org/gallery/1hg4gqy1m/
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09/09/2014 08:53 am
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 Posted 09/09/2014  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see mostly wear on the dates, which can be deceiving. You might want to take the time to learn a little more about varieties and markers before entertaining the idea of having 50 coins slabbed. Start here for the 09 DDO http://www.coppercoins.com/diesearch.php
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I think you should make a separate post for each of the coins you think are Doubled Dies or at least post the ones you think are 101 in one post and 102 in another. If you do in fact have 8 Doubled Dies (which I would be very surprised and happy for you) it would make the purchase better. If you don't have any doubled dies you might be looking at a not so good purchase. If you were to sell those on ebay most of them would go most likely for under $5.00 IMO...probably under $4.00. I hope I am wrong but I think this might be one of those lessoned learned purchases.

Are you using a Coin Price Guide? The grading companies will show you one price but that is for a coin in a slab. A raw coin will go for less. I always look at how much coins are selling for on ebay.

I could be mistaken on my pricing and I hope I am but I can't see each of those coins selling for over $10.
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Here are a couple marker images for the 1909P-1DO-002 VDB
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http://coppercoins.com/lincoln/dies...ie_state=mds
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 Posted 09/09/2014  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 6thCents to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for all the input! I see the sold rolls of 50 in g-f sold for $350-$600 recently so I think I may have paid on the high end... BUT I am now pretty sure, thanks to Mr. Cooper's site, that I have a few 1DO-002 with "Moderate extra thickness shows on the date and LIBER of LIBERTY." I can see the zeros that are the exact shape in the pic and 9s with the line on the bottom showing thickness and slight doubling. I will take a closer look and start posting one by one as advised, because the other method with me choosing between 001 & 002 is probably not a good idea!

The way I look at it, even if one or two pan out I'm super stoked and ready to hunt for more!
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I call this guy "Blackeyed Abe" with the markers and a lot of damage, not sure if it's PMD or MPD? what are your thoughts on this one? The date looks pretty thick and the liberty letters look thick and doubled. The reverse has doubled wheat stalks on the right side, you see a clear doubling of the bottom of the wheat stalks. Also on the reverse next to the VDB. I'm not sure if you can see the shape of the die gouge?, if that's what it is? but it's rounded not flat.


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