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Pillar of the Community
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Who in their right mind would sell this roll and not open it? Once again a OBW roll scam artists at work. 301310009257 |
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Pillar of the Community
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All a Buyer needs to do is CHECK THE SELLERS FEEDBACK and read between the lines! Taking 10 minutes to do that one simple procedure could save a Buyer a boat load of money and keep the disappointment level down.
Chances are the Buyer is going to end up with a BU 89-P, a BU 1882/3 or 4 CC dollar and 18 common circulated dollars. Once they open the crimped dollar roll and check the contents they are going to be severely disappointed and won't be able to return the item.
It looks like this particular Seller is "graduating" from the "unsearched" crimped cent rolls to the "unsearched" crimped dollar rolls. They probably saw the success that the "Bullion & Exchange Bank" unsearched, crimped dollar roll Seller from Utah was having a couple of weeks ago and decided they wanted to get in on the action, too.
Get real eBayers! For all intent and purpose, ORIGINAL, unsearched, crimped dollar rolls from the early 1900's DO NOT EXIST! No legitimate coin dealer would sell you a roll of BU dollars without checking the contents first!
Coin dealers may do some dumb things but they aren't THAT stupid!
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Rest in Peace
United States
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 You can bet the value of that roll is about $650 not $3,000 plus. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Who in their right mind would sell this roll and not open it? I would. Why? Because if you did happen to find a real bank wrapped roll of dollars, most likely if you opened it up you would find you had coins worth $600 - $700. But leave it in the unopened roll and you will find silly people with stars in their eyes and dreams of riches that will pay you $2500 - $3000. You will note even in the sellers description he says Quote:
We expect coins to be in Choice to GEM BU condition with varying dates and mints. So even he is telling the bidders that they are most likely going to get mixed coins, yet the bidding is still over $3000. So for the most part the bidders are scamming themselves. With the possible exception of calling it an OBW roll, he has correctly described the lot, an 1889, a CC mint coin, and most likely mixed dates and mints for the rest. Edited by Conder101
09/15/2014 1:12 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Who in their right mind would sell this roll and not open it? Once again a OBW roll scam artists at work. The same type of folk who go to Vegas expecting to drop quarter after quarter after quarter into slot machines hoping to hit it big. Now, I agree with everyone here, you'd have to be a lot crazy to spend that kind of money on that kind of bet but there are more fools with too much money than there are folks like me with little money and a lot of skepticism :-) |
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Pillar of the Community
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As westernsky said - just read the feedback. Red flag 1: If you buy a roll of something from this guy and find something really great inside the roll, are you going to spell out the specifics of what you found in the feedback you leave for him...? Or are you just gonna hurry up and buy more before everybody jumps on the bandwagon? These 4 people (?) decided to spell it out: 1. Found the Rare (1869 Full Liberty Indian Head) Mint condition!!!! 2. Great coins...got 2 1922 d's, and 1 1922 No D, also got some more semi-key dates 3. FOUND AN 1872 AU, FULL BEADS & DIAMONDS. MOST BEAUTIFUL COIN-1879,1886, OTHER AU 4. The best buy on ebay! I keep coming back. This time found a1931-S / at least MS Red flag number two: These 4 feedbacks (all in the last 6 months) were from 4 different users. None had feedback of their own greater than 33. All 4 are now shown as "NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER" Confidence builder? I don't think so. |
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Pillar of the Community
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It's ebay folks, c'mon. Really not worth commenting on is it! ebay was, is, and forever will be for scammers. Edited by 1893S
09/15/2014 7:54 pm
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Forum Dad
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So you're calling me a scammer? I don't appreciate it one bit.
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Pillar of the Community
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So you're calling me a scammer? I don't appreciate it one bit. I don't believe he was calling you or anyone else on this site a scammer per se... I think he was referring to ebay itself as a place for scammers in general.... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I said ebay is a place for scammers Bobby, did I mention your name?. The day ebay is gone numismatists and collectors will be better off. Edited by 1893S
09/15/2014 9:16 pm
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Moderator
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ebay ain't going anywhere..hate to break that to you.
swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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One can only hope that coin collectors wise up Vermont. And, as far as breaking that to me, I wasn't born yesterday.
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I've been buying and selling on ebay since 1997. No problems that's because as a seller, I'm ethical and cautious, as a buyer, I'm educated and can smell a rat a mile away. When it comes to Numismatics, wasn't born yesterday either. As far as the scammers, I just navigate around them. If buyers want to be stupid and not educate themselves, oh well. swcoin.ecrater.com
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Agreed Vermont!....I still hope ebay goes away. Hopefully we can agree to disagree with my statement. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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The deal is that 99.9% of CCF members that have been here a long time know the scams on ebay and know enough not to fall for them. New people come to this forum and learn everyday. If we have prevented one person from getting "taken" we have had success. That's all any of us can hope for. Unfortunately, there will always be people who cannot resist the allure that there is an "unsearched", crimped roll of what "might" be 1889-CC dollars staring at them saying "bid now, bid now, bid now". Those people are willing to gamble because that is human nature. That's ebay. The Seller is playing on the greed factor. The Seller knows exactly what is in the roll. The Seller may not have made up the roll, but he knows who did. Sellers like this think they are doing nothing wrong and are just taking advantage of the situation. They sit around and think this stuff up, devise a plan and execute it. Eventually, somebody that gets screwed will flip out and make a visit to a Seller of this type of stuff. It's not a matter of if, but when. |
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Posted 09/15/2014 07:03 am
