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Km# For 50th Anniversary Kennedy Halves ?

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I haven't seen it published anywhere. If it's really a reissue of the 1964 in a different metal, KM-202c? But with the variant date 1964-2014, last time (1776) they issued a new number.

Anyone?

And the source please, not just the #

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Not really understanding that nonsense, but jsut using them so I have SOME numbr to put with the coins that many people do agree upon, there is strangeness in them wher eI doubt that would work.

202 90% silver
202a 40% silver
202b clad

this would make since that a change in composition would mean just make it a 202c, but the design also changed.

205 1976 (duo date, and reverse change)

So what caused the new number, the reverse design change or the obverse design change?

A202b is the return to clad...

so how do they decide what change means it gets a new number?

a192 is the Jafferson nickel 1946~2003

just changing the reverse it became 360 & 361 in 2004

anything that changes simply because the dating method changes? are there really any rules to the numbering system other than the order they do them it becomes the next chronological coin, and they just decide if/when to make a new number?

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Until they publish a change (which could take weeks, months, even years) I would go with the A202b The design hasn't really changed that much. Relief higher and head slightly larger is all. They never assigned new numbers for all the revisions lowering the relief, and reducing the head size or the widened rims in 1971 (and there were multiple changes over the years). So why should they assign a new number for increasing the relief again?
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C- different metal? I think Shadz nailed it - there really isn't a [published] rhyme nor reason to this...
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Most of them aren't a different composition. The two coin set is copper nickel clad the same composition as 202b. The four coin set is 90% silver the same as 202. The gold coin I could see being made 202c because it IS a new composition
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Bump...
Anybody?

It's now almost a year after the release of the coins...
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I haven't seen a single KM# for the entirety of 2014-15. Not sure what is going on there.

How about this new system, SM# (Shadzar Metrics Number)?

SM# 2014-50c-USD-Au

you already know what the SM of the system means, the 2014 section is the date/year issued, the 50c is the coins value in issued country, USD, is the country issued, and Au is the main material the coin is made of. compare this to the non anniversary strike which would have :

SM# 2014D-50c-USD-CuNi
SM# 2014P-50c-USD-CuNi
SM# 2014S-50c-USD-CuNi

Here the date section changed to show the mintmark present on the coin, as well the metallic compo....

yeah, I aint making some system for it.. I guess they are just slacking since it isn't on that numimaster site, or everyone just decided they didnt care to track them with a system that doesn't have any rhyme or reason behind it anymore since everyone and their brother has an app that can jsut take pics of coins and label them how the various apps do.

do grading companies even use those numbers?
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Like I said earlier it could be several years before they get around to listing the new number. I have over 200 coins some as much as five years old that don't have numbers yet. I used to send new pieces to George Cuhaj, I believe he assigned the new numbers, but he isn't with Krause anymore.
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Thanks to a contact from another thread, I was put in touch with the new editor.

Maggie Judkins
Numismatics Book Editorial
Krause Publications

She provided me with the #s this morning

50th Anniversary Kennedy half dollar Gold
KM-587: 2014-W Proof

50th Anniversary Kennedy half dollar Silver Coin Set
KM-A202c.1: 2014-D Unc.
KM-A202c.2: 2014-S Enhanced Unc.
KM-A202c.3: 2014-P Proof
KM-A202c.4: 2014-W Reverse Proof

50th Anniversary Kennedy half dollar Uncirculated Coin Set
KM-A202b.1: 2014-P Unc.
KM-A202b.1: 2014-D Unc.

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