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Graded Proof 70 ASE

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 Posted 09/17/2014  6:46 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all,

Just started collecting and initially thought I wanted a bunch of graded proof 70 silver eagles. Part of this is because the prices were usually much lower than the grading site indicates.

So I figured I was getting a pretty good buy. However, I know wonder if these are the worst (i.e., 1992 70 proof) because of the high premiums.

My favorite lately has been to get an odd/old/unique bar or round at close to spot that has a potential for smaller premiums.

For instance, I could pay say $250 for a proof 70 1992, or get a lot of interesting, but much less expensive bars and rounds.

I enjoy both, but am having a difficult time figuring out these graded eagles.

Thanks
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 Posted 09/19/2014  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Did I post this in the wrong area? If so, would someone tell me a better place to post? I am very interested in a response from a more experienced collector.
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 Posted 09/19/2014  01:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS/PR-70's are not really my cup of tea. I just have hard time justifying paying a high premium for a small difference in grade. The coins are virtually perfect the moment it's struck and for the large part preserved in the same condition since they left the mint. Not every 70 in a holder is truly a 70 and it can takes years of experience to determine if is graded correct. Preservation can be somewhat of an issue since a MS/PR-70 leaves you no room for any sort of deterioration while in the holder.

If I were looking to purchase a proof silver eagle, I would either get it raw in original government packaging or one certified PR-69 DCAM/UCAM as long as the premium is reasonable. That would leave some money for other coins or bars. Others may disagree.

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Well you are headed in two completely different directions. You have to decide whether you want to buy bullion (bars, bullion ASE's) or collect collector coins (graded proof ASE)

With the former you are investing in silver with its ups and downs and with the latter you are developing a coin collection.

To equate them is a mistake...your decision which to pursue .

I buy bullion AND collect coins..different paths for each
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 Posted 09/19/2014  11:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MontanaCMR to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies.

I tend to agree on the 70, although my initial thought was if the price of these ever went up, people would send in their original coa only to find out after having it for a few years only grades at a 69 (i.e., dropped or slightly damaged from shipping...).

However, you are correct as I need to figure out what I want to do. I think I will stop buying anymore 70s ASE, especially since the only unique change is the dang date. That is part of the reason I really enjoy the Kookaburra coins - each year is unique.
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Graded ASE's are not my cup of tea. When I buy a graded coin I'm looking at the rarity factor. For example a 1800's gold or silver coin that has few examples in the grades that I would be looking at seem to me to be a much better holder of value that a graded ASE. My opinion only.

However on the other hand I do have a complete set of ASE including all of the various anniversity sets. The 25th anniversary set had a mintage of 100,000 and I have 6 sets and this set is currently listed as being a modern rarity not a scarce item. To me coins like this will keep their value over time. I don't plan on selling my sets but leaving them to my kids.

I do believe that rarity and condition in grade is the thing to look at. Again just mho.

Collect what you like and be sure to enjoy them.
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