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 Posted 09/19/2014  03:28 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Leaky to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I have researched this coin as much as I can and have been quite successful to a point. This coin is the only of it's type that has a letter below the bridge and then another number of series of letters below that. Does anyone out there have a clue as to what is this coin.
Thank you very much...
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 Posted 09/19/2014  05:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Circus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The series of numbers is most probably a date, since you didn't say what info you found. I will point out what looks like the date 197? So I will take a stab that it is a recent reproduction of the original coin. This coin celebrates Claudius' triumph over Britain. The letters on the arch read DE BRITANN, which is the Latin for '[A triumph] over the Britons'.

And the R probably is an indicator that it is a REPRODUCTION

Google it 8,+++ hits in under .30 sec.
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09/19/2014 05:46 am
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 Posted 09/19/2014  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Leaky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you... You are right - I didn't say what I found. I am new and was nervous about my first entry on this site. My research found it to be closest Roman Imperial Coinage AV Aureus - RIC I, 33. The diameter of 21mm and weight of 4.6 grams is what this coin is and the 33 is as close as I could get. I also looked at all the forgeries for this coin and could not find one with a letter big letter "R" and a date beneath. But... I sounds really odd that some entity would go to all the trouble to recreate a duplicate coin and a put a large "R" and the date 1971 beneath for what reason? And it appears that I have the only copy for view on the internet. What a deal...
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 Posted 09/19/2014  08:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Circus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You have to understand the companies making repro's of tokens, coins and medals will make anything they think will sell. There might be 100 different the companies over the years that have made copies of that coin. Most companies mark their repo's in some way. And some countries have laws about marking current and recent coinage.

There is a large segment of the coin and token hobby on the auction sites and ebay that pass off the fakes as real, hoping to hook uninformed new collectors into paying more than they are worth.

Like with certain tokens for the coke marquee and the old west brothel tokens which are all fantasy tokens. As other than a few saloon tokens for change for drinks. They didn't have tokens for other services.

Then you have the reissues of older tokens because somebody has found or purchased the dies. legitimate companies alter the die so they are seen as repro's

Also a number of Chinese companies are known for faking everything from gold bars and coinage new and old. A lot of members on this forum have posted about fakes and Repro's on this forum.

Years ago when I was set up at a flea market selling jewelry and parts. There was a dealer selling some coins, tokens and other collectables. He had a box with assorted foreign coins, tokens etc. he would put the repro's of the bawdy house tokens in the box, and sell them for way more than they were worth. But to somebody that only new that those tokens should be worth more than the price on the box. He would buy them from the maker, and then artificially age them, just enough to knock the new off. And make sure he always had just enough in the box to be a steady seller.
Now people buy them and thing they made a great find. They talk up their find to family, it becomes family lore. When they pass their people rush to cash in and put them on ebay as "REAL". Well you get the idea.
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These reproductions were given away by Robinsons, a British soft drinks manufacturer, in 1971. The 'R' is for Robinson. I remember saving labels from the bottles as a kid and sending them off! I still have the whole set of coin replicas in the original folder. I'll post a photo of it when I get home.
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What a lot of super information. I did find the Robinsons thing but I believe it said the coins were all plastic. It would be great if you actually had one of metal like mine. I really appreciate all the help I have received on this token... Now instead of having a "fake" coin have a bonifide piece of unique history from 1971... Thank you all....
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 Posted 09/20/2014  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey! I have one of those too Rob! I hadn't remembered the Robinsons connection though.

A couple of mine seen to have lost the 'R' mark (Oops. Well, I was young!)

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 Posted 09/20/2014  05:52 am  Show Profile   Check NumisRob's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add NumisRob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've found a link to the story about the museum:
http://shreevatsa.wordpress.com/201...ic-failures/
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 Posted 02/22/2022  06:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bjherbison to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Another reference to this coin.

https://www.weirduniverse.net/blog/...led_a_museum
The replica Roman coin that fooled a museum
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