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Penny Almost Clear, Error Or MD?

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I think it is 1983.



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 Posted 09/20/2014  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's a possibility that it's a struck through late stage die cap error, the full rim is a good sign, but to be sure, can you weigh it? Some clearer pictures could help too
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 Posted 09/20/2014  7:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add khasil to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, it is 2.6g.



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Looks like a die cap - nice find!
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Yeah I agree with rackster, almost definitely a die cap
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 Posted 09/20/2014  8:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pyrbob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with Adam the first time. This coin is struck through a die cap. It is not a die cap.
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 Posted 09/20/2014  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pyrbob - can you explain the difference? Thanks.
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thank you guys, is there any premium, for this type of coin.
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Rackster, a die cap is the coin that sticks to the die. Then the coins cycling through being struck by it are called struck through a die cap which is what we see in the posted coin.
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Thanks pyrbob. Do you know if the cap eventually falls off and if so, does it have a more blown out appearance?
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Yes die caps do fall off. They come in different configurations depending on how long they continue to strike coins. They can look like a large broadstrike (but with evidence of being struck more than once) or they can look like the popular cup shaped die caps if they strike so many coins they extrude up around the die giving the cup shape when they drop off.
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Ah yes - I've seen these for sale on ebay. It's hard to imagine a coin that damaged can make it out of the mint and into a roll without detection. A struck through specimen seems the more likely coin to escape.
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It's easier to imagine when you consider up until 2000 you could get BU coins in cloth bags. The cup shaped die caps being found by a collector then makes more sense. Since then they would be found by the coin processing companies like Brinks and Dunbar who get the large bags and break them down into rolls for the banks. But with the new processing the mint has installed fewer of this type of error makes it out into the wild.
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Oops, yeah, that's what I meant the second time too, my bad
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Not sure on the premium this would bring. It looks like the die caps themselves bring decent money but the struck through coins are priced all over the place. Most at ebay seem to be higher grade coins as well and the lower grade coins don't even look like the genuine item.

Maybe members here have sold/purchased similar looking specimens and can offer a value.
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