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How About This Morgan, Does It Look Fake?

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I got this coin maybe 15 years ago from my brother-in-law who says he had it for many years too. Thinks he bought it in NY City but doesn't recall. He said it was black when he got it so he cleaned it with comet and a toothbrush to quote "make it shiny".

I'm considering selling it on ebay but I don't want to put a fake out there.

Despite his cleaning it I always thought it looked kind of fake. Its all pitted and the mintmark looks so tiny. I never weighed it, I don't have a scale like that. Soundwise it sounds the same as any of the 5 morgans I bought at a coin shops over the years, but as I've said I am the farthest thing in the world from being a coin expert, so what opinion do any of you have regarding it's authenticity?
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 Posted 09/22/2014  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd say authentic but environmentally damaged. A very common issue worth melt in this condition. I don't know if I'd take on ebay fees to move something like this along.
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I don't think it's fake, but it's been utterly destroyed by the cleaning. It's worth the silver content, and nothing more. That tiny mint mark is characteristic of the year.
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 Posted 09/22/2014  11:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Altaira to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with those above. This Morgan looks real to me too but has not been treated very well in the past.
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He said it was black when he got it so he cleaned it with comet and a toothbrush to quote "make it shiny".

Ouch.

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pitted

It looks pitted because of environmental damage. The black that was cleaned off exposed the pitted surfaces.

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mintmark looks so tiny.

Normal for 1921 branch mint morgans. The MM is tiny for Denver, too.

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authenticity?

Genuine, VF details, environmental damage/harshly cleaned.
Worth melt value.
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09/22/2014 11:43 am
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Not to mention, there looks to be a rim bump at about 7 o'clock on the obv.

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Thank you all for those fine opinions. Seeing as it has no collectors value whatsoever I'll probably put it with some other junk silver I have and maybe toss it all on ebay as a lot.
Thanks again

-Rich
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I agree with the others, genuine.
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I would check the weight before I would call it silver.
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I am looking at the third picture from the top. It does not look like the edge is reeded. On the right side in the same photo it also looks like a casting line on the edge, though it could be the lighting. If this is a casting line, it is certainly counterfeit.
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I have never seen silver pitted like that. Has that pot metal cast look to it. You need to weigh it.
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Real or fake, it is
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utterly destroyed


Make like G. Washington and see how far across the river you can throw it so it -never- shows up again in the marketplace to cause confusion.
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however said Denver needs glasses, that is from the San Francisco mint...
Unless Denver started using the "S" as a mint mark. :)

looks real to me.. and it wouldn't hurt the value for you to scrape a little on the edge..
also try a magnet.
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