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Pillar of the Community
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I bought the book, and to me this looks like one, does anybody got some high res photos I could compare mine to?  If this is not one, no big deal I only paid $15 bucks for it. I did not buy it thinking it could be one, its just when I went to photograph it tonight and put it into my Dansco it seemed different than all the others. edit: I checked my records and only paid $15 for it. I also have bigger pics if needed. Edited by chrsb
08/26/2007 07:19 am
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United States
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I'm looking for a 1916 Lincoln. I'm putting together a type set for that year. Saw this one but the reverse seems marked up. I'm not in a hurry to purchase, but I'll keep my eyes open for one. http://cgi.ebay.com/1916-S-LINCOLN-...62_W0QQitemZ330159529174QQihZ014QQcategoryZ39456QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
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Pillar of the Community
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Here's a challenge for you...can you get a picture of the edge?
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Pillar of the Community
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Half, No problem, that is what seemed weird when I went to put it into the album, it was thicker than all the other ones.    The edges look squared to me, the only thing is I do not understand the markers in the book. Edited by chrsb
08/26/2007 09:24 am
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I went over to Heritage and took a look around and am getting a little excited! I am leaning toward this actually being a 1916 MPL, only 1,050 minted I think, the least of all the MPL's. I don't know if I am allowed to copy pics from that site so I wont, but if you have an account there check it out.
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This is not a proof coin - devices are not right, rim is not right, and edge is not right. 1916 Philly cents are well known for being very well struck with relatively clean dies. A lot of the mint state pieces borderline on looking somewhat proof-like.
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Wow Chuck, you just ruined my weekend. I would hate for you to be my doctor or financial adviser. I just hear it now "Chris you got 2 day to live, see the nurse on the way out to fill out some paperwork" or "Chris your broke, come back when you got some more money". Thanks for the help again, I look forward to getting some more pages to my attribution guide! I also got the 3 cents from you that I won on the SLCC auction, nice!
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08/26/2007 6:18 pm
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Edited by chrsb
08/26/2007 6:16 pm
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No intent to ruin your weekend - just tell it like I see it. I shoot straight from the hip, no sugar coating. If it helps ease the pain, from the photos I see an MS65BN coin worth around $50.
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Chuck is correct Chris. but that is a nice 16 though let me know when you get ready to sale it lol.
Gary
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Wait a minute...the coin has a wire rim! Can you be so sure that it's not a Proof? Did the business strikes get wire rims? I've been told by a 3CN expert that any 3CN with a wire rim is most definitely a Proof...period. Does the same work with Lincoln cents?
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Pillar of the Community
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The book on matte proofs I got says the following for 1916 proofs (taken from a reprint of the Numismatist)-
Obverse-Die polish between the 1 and 9 in date, through UST of trust and at WE.
Reverse-Die polish above PLURIBUS
What got me all excited was mine looks just like the picture in the book that shows the die polish above PLURIBUS and had the same mark between the 1 and 9.
I have no ideal what the above means.
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08/26/2007 6:38 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Might not be a proof but it would be worth alot more then 15 bucks to me as sharp of strike as it is. Grats on a great find!
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Alright, this is my last point I will make and accept my disappointment, I took an image the 50cent posted in another thread on matte poofs and put it next to mine. His is an PCGS PR-63,(50cent, if you object to me using your pic let me know and I will take this off)  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Nice side by side comparison chrsb! The difference is obvious when you look at the relief of the 1911. At least you have a beautiful chocolate MS Lincoln though  |
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I learned this on another site- Matte proof Lincoln cents were made by: 1. new, unhardened dies were sandblasted. 2. the dies were hardened normally. 3. these dies were used in an hydraulic medal press to stamp the coin (one blow from the press). All dies started out with flat rims and nearly square junctions between field and rimes or lettering, but only the medal press could exert enough pressure to force this fully into the coin planchet. This process produced the distinctive surface on Lincoln cents 1909-1916 and 1913-1916 Buffalo nickel proofs. The matte surface did not wear well and dies had to be replaced when the surface smoothed out - probably after a few hundred pieces were struck. (Old, mirror surface proof dies could be repolished and put back in the medal press.) The Coiner or an assistant examined all proof coins and removed substandard pieces. Pieces that were defective (clips, off-center, multiple strikes) were destroyed; pieces that were substandard but still good coin were tossed into the regular production bins and entered circulation. Mint totals are for the number of pieces accepted by the Coiner (as in the Guide Book), not the quantity sold (except in a few instances where that quantity is known). Matte proofs can be very deceptive, so follow the advice in Lange's book and have suspect pieces examined by someone with considerable experience. |
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