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1923 USSR Russia Gold 10 Roubles-Chervonetz

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 Posted 09/30/2014  2:59 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ulysses1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
hi
just found this coin in my fathers stuff 1923 RUSSIA Gold 10 Roubles-Chervonetz..were would be the best plase to sell the coin

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thaks for your time ulysses
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 Posted 09/30/2014  4:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Very nice!

I moved your post to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.
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 Posted 09/30/2014  9:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add srcliff to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not sure what the collector value is on that (I'm sure someone here does) but I would at least figure out the gold content so you know the minimum you should take for it if its only worth the melt value.
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 Posted 10/01/2014  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is a rather rare coin - worth several thousand, probably around 5000 or so if genuine.

However I am not certain of its authenticity. What is the weight of this coin? Please ensure that it is down to 2 decimal places in grams.
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 Posted 10/01/2014  04:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ulysses1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi
thanks for your input. is that coin that rare?
8.7 grams 22mm across
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 Posted 10/01/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bungle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The weight and dimensions are about right, and it looks real enough.
Don't try to clean it!

If you have the time, before selling it, you might want to find a reputable coin dealer who can verify its authenticity or help you send it to NGC or PCGS for grading.

I doubt you will get $5K for it, but they are expensive.
From wikipedia ("Chervonets" page):
Original gold chervonets coins were minted in 1923 and 1925. Very few chervonets coins remain from 1923 (almost all coins, which were not sold abroad and remained in state vaults, were recast into bars or used in production of Soviet military orders) and they have recently sold for over $7000.
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hi
don't think its been cleaned not going 2
going to spink on Monday see wht they say
thanks again
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 Posted 12/19/2014  06:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ulysses1965 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
hi
just got the coin back from being graded great grade cgs80
see pic now looking to sell

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Im pretty sure CGS is not a reputable company and 80 isn't even a real grade.
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 Posted 12/19/2014  09:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
They are a British grading service rather than a US one....
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 Posted 12/19/2014  10:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bungle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think CGS, or "CGS UK" is London Coins http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/

They use a 1-100 scale, and 80 is supposed to be about NGC/PCGS MS64.
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ok, sorry about that.
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 Posted 12/19/2014  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As far as I can tell, CGS usually only grades UK coins (their website), so them grading a Russian coin is interesting (i.e., it's similar to ICCS, which primarily does Canadian coins and are considered the best I hear, when they grade US coins...when they go outside their primary scope of expertise, you need to question the result). Also, since I'm not in Europe, I cannot comment on to how well known/trusted/etc. CGS is, but I highly doubt anyone in America would really touch something graded by CGS (thinking it a basement slab, case in point, thedollarman's initial reaction). If you're interested in selling, I'm not sure what market you were thinking of going after (Russia is probably out...currency collapse and all right now), but it's something to note.


For example, if I had 5-7K disposable income, which I do not (and is thusly unfortunate), I'd be really interested in the coin, but not graded by CGS. Can't say I'm not interested in the coin even though I don't have capital, however.
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