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Rest in Peace
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I don't know what else it could be, but I've found a lot of coins with what I think is a gas bubble in this spot and I wanted confirmation before I released them into the wild.  Thanks. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Did you do the fingernail test? I've seen some interesting die crack specimens posted on LSCs, but this would have to be some kind of internal die break I think (but it doesn't look like that). Maybe a heavy gouge?
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I have seen a lot with dings behind the lettering, don't know how that happens. John1  |
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Rest in Peace
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Rackster, I tried to smash it with my fingernail -- well, first I kicked myself for not thinking of trying that before posting -- and no change.
The thing is, I'm not sure I'm hitting it because it's so very tiny and it is behind/under the letters. It's hard enough to aim for it, but once my finger gets over the coin I can't see what I'm doing. I do have nice long girly nails as befits a middle-aged woman who can't find a job. So, having the longish nails makes me think I probably hit something -- but I can't be sure.
John1, as for the dings behind the lettering -- I think I recall one of our experts wrote that the planchet got dinged on the way to the dies.
Anyway, this one's a puzzler .... a keeper for now, I guess.
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Try pressing the "bubble" with a toothpick. Quote:
planchet got dinged on the way to the dies. If that's the case then why didn't the dings get smoothed out when the die pressed the planchet? Just wondering. Thanks John1 Edited by John1
10/16/2014 06:56 am
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Thanks for posting this Buddy,  I just found one of these 2 days ago and was wondering the same thing.  |
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Buddy - first off I hope your fortunes change and a fine opportunity is heading in your direction. In the meantime, keeping active in all facets (including coin collecting) is important to mind and body.
You may want to use a blunt toothpick under magnification to allow observation. It should compress if it is indeed a gas bubble. Press down rather than move it back and forth to prevent scratching especially if you have found something. Coop has suggested a green rose thorn as an option (usually for removal of loose particulates clinging to a device. The object of course is to take the least aggressive action on a coin. Let us know how you make out (on both fronts)!
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Bedrock of the Community
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planchet got dinged on the way to the dies. If the planchet was dinged (and the ding survived the striking) it would be incuse not raised. Either a gas bubble or a die gouge. |
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Rest in Peace
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Okay -- I got out the microscope and tried to break the bump or smash it and there was no change.
I've seen lines - incuse or relief - behind/under E Pluribus Unum before. I just got really curious when I found a few (all relief) that were pretty much the same.
I'm setting it aside for now. If it is a gas bubble, time will tell.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Keep in mind that the EPU on Shields cents are incuse. So any contact will cause an indentation on the coin. Making it appear that it is between these devices. It is just a contact mark from another coin. When you rotate these 90 degrees to the right you can see these better.
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Rest in Peace
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 Thanks coop! When I held the coin right at eye level and rotated it -- I could see it was a ding. Looking straight down on the coin causes a bit of an optical illusion. Anyway, thanks again. This was sort of driving me nuts amd mow I can relax with my good friend Johnnie Walker and forget about it. If you're ever in northern IL, I owe you a drink (at least). |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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You just never know. I might be in that area someday.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Well, there's always the ANA show next August...  |
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Question,if the coin gets dinged after it is minted then why is the lettering not damaged in any way (EPU)? If the planchet gets dinged before minting then why isn't the ding "ironed out" during minting? John1 |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The EPU in incuse. The area affected is the field above where the coin damage happened. Most of the time the ding is not that deep, other times it disturbs the surface of the devices.   Rotating the coin in this direction you can see the coin ding easier. |
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Posted 10/14/2014 9:23 pm
