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I decided that, rather than just having one three-cent silver piece in my 7070 album, I should have one of each type. I already had a Type 1, and the other two just arrived in the mail today. While photographing the 1861 Type 3 example I kept having trouble with the reverse. Every time I flipped it over, it was facing the wrong direction. I thought I was going crazy, until I realized that the reverse is actually rotated a full 180 degrees from standard position. Is this common with these coins or with this year? Does it add anything to the value?   |
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For the time period not rare but definitely scarce.
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Nice. They're apparently "scarce" but it seems there's a bunch floating around (1861's that is). It may add a bit of value, I think the MS examples rotated would certainly fetch a premium.. Here's my AU example, someone on here has a really nice one..   |
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1861 Three Cent Silvers with 180 degree rotation are the most common of that series. I had one of these a couple of years ago and showed it to an error specialist dealer I know and he said he does not buy or sell them with a premium over a normal die orientation. |
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Thanks for the info, guys!
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With the relatively symmetrical C, it may be that the press was set up with the die flipped and many coins were run before it was noticed. If it were an eagle reverse, I'd think it would get noticed much sooner.
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I think rotated dies are cool! I'll play along and show my 1861 Rotated Die 3CS;   I would like to get it TrueViewed, but I like the solid gasket holders better than the three prong type. Edited by oih82w8
10/29/2014 10:07 pm
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1861s aren't super rare but aren't common either. About a year ago - when I was tracking them for my 3cs set - I found that certified and marked as medalic alignment sold for a small premium on ebay. The ones listed BIN for absurd prices sat for months. Once relisted at a reasonable price point they were snapped up. -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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1861s aren't super rare but aren't common either. OK, I'm confused now. I wasn't asking whether 1861s were rare, just whether three-cent silver pieces with 180-degree rotated dies were rare. Do all 1861s have 180-degree rotated dies? |
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I meant "Medalic Alignment" 61s
-----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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Do all 1861s have 180-degree rotated dies? Nope, some are coin alignment. The rotated dies are listed as rare, but it seems they pop up more often than your think they would.. That's the one I was talking about in my forst post, oih82w8's stunner!  |
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Thanks for the info, guys.
So... are these rare enough for mine to carry any premium in the condition it's in? I paid $95 for it just because I wanted a nice example for my Type collection, but the seller didn't mention the rotated die and I have no idea if he even noticed it.
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As I (think I) said, there is a modest premium for decent grade examples. People who list for crazy premiums find they don't sell. There are 3 right now on ebay at the XF-AU 190-275 range. But none have sold recently. FMV is 168 to low 200s... -----Burton 50+ year / Life / Emeritus ANA member (joined 12/1/1973) Life member: Numismatics International, CONECA Member: TNA, FtWCC, NETCC, EveryCountry (online) coin club Owned by three cats and a wife of 40+ years (joined 1983) Author: 3rd Edition of the Sample Slabs book, https://www.sampleslabs.info/ |
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FMV is 168 to low 200s... Well, that certainly makes me feel pretty good about paying $95 for mine, thank you! |
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