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Pillar of the Community
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We all know exactly what is going on.
Unfortunately, there are others out there that don't and end up not getting exactly what they thought they would. The Seller has described it and the prospective bidders can interpret it many different ways. The Seller leaves that blanket "gotcha" with the "yeah, you can return it, but only if it hasn't been tampered with or opened". He has made sure that won't happen by gluing the crimps.
I still think someday, somebody that sells this stuff is gonna get paid a visit and it's not gonna have a pretty ending.
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Valued Member
United States
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ebay would back the buyer if bought and returned opened. So would your credit card company.
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Pillar of the Community
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This is unbelievable. I remember seeing one of these going for $3k when I was an inexperienced collector, and I know I would have pulled the trigger if I had had that amount of money. Is there no way this can be reported?
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Interesting description, though. It basically says expect very few CC's, but a lot of high-grade coins. However, I would take this with a grain of salt.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Last one I saw on ebay sold for nearly $6,000. My guess is this will get to $3,000-$4,000 easily, if not more.
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Pillar of the Community
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How would he know how tight it was rolled?
I like his use of the word sucker when he described how well he rolled it.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Yeah, this seller has him/herself covered pretty good. I have to laugh with, Quote: The investor question is whether to sock away the roll as an investment in itself or to open the roll. I personally think it's better to sock away the roll ....and I can add, 'because if you open it, you will be disappointed and most likely open a case against me.' YES, The reference to SUCKER in the final line is priceless. Calling doctor freud. The bidders are the ones that should be reported. 
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Quote: .We do know from the one we have opened that they seem to have higher proportions of PL and DMPLs From the one we have opened  Yeah, sure.
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Pillar of the Community
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A summary of coin rolling machine history. http://boards.collectors-society.co...mber=6621251Note the picture of a finished roll from the 1911 Batdorf patent, which shows the crimped end roll so attractive to e-bay bidders. This machine made it possible to roll coins tightly and neatly. Denomination is important! Coin rolling machines were invented to process mass quantities of NICKELS from vending machines and thus minimize labor costs at the banks. So it might be possible to find a legitimate bank roll of 1913 Buffalo nickels but not of any uncirculated cc dollars. By the time the crimped end rolling machine was invented (and used to roll unwanted circulated dollars for melting at the treasury) the US Mint had their remaining cc dollars stored away for later distribution. One last thing. I've rolled a lot of coins by hand, into paper tubes. I've never done a crimped end roll, which incorporates a ribbon paper feed. It's impossible to do this without that machine invented in 1911. Rolling papers printed with 1880's bank logos make Counterfeit Detection easy.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
Edited by thq 10/21/2014 10:01 am
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Pillar of the Community
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"These Roll was acquired from an estate of an ex bank executive." Sure they were. And even in the highly unlikely event that is a truthful statement, it is completely irrelevant, just intended to deceive.
In case you didn't catch it, the grammar used in the quotation above would get a 3rd grader an F.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Over the $2200 hurdle with a day to go.
Seems odd that this is roll #16 yet the seller has only 2 feedbacks in the last year, neither as a seller. Maybe the whole Family is working on selling these. Or maybe none of his buyers is leaving feedback...
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
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Why are we lynching this seller? The only definitive claim he/she makes is about the two end coins being CC. Everything else is clearly written to say that there could be anything in the roll. There is no claim they are all CC coins, in fact just the opposite. I am a very skeptical person by nature, but this auction if far clearer and fairer than most. Sure, the lister makes some grand and fantastical statements about what he/she THINKS, but it is made clear it is just speculation. I truely think this poster has made a fair listing even if the paper part is fake
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Valued Member
United States
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I think that it is a fair auction. If the bidders fail to realize that this roll is most likely rolled by the seller, then that is their fault.
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Pillar of the Community
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unholyroller, the thing that makes this unfair is if the seller rolled the coins himself and is trying to pass it off as a "bank sealed" roll.
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote: unholyroller, the thing that makes this unfair is if the seller rolled the coins himself and is trying to pass it off as a "bank sealed" roll. "if"? 
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