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The "Casino Hoard"? Which one? I'd steer clear. BTW, "shamm" is probably not the best choice of ebay IDs. |
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shamm922 is a member here on CCF. Hammbone
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I'm not worried about the provenance, because who cares about that? These were not "collections," they were big buckets full of coins which were not acquired for numismatic reasons. From that standpoint, all Morgans are part of "The U.S. Mint Hoard."
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No way to prove provenience. You have to rely on the good faith of the company that put it together.
They look like common, generic BU dollars to me. Realistic worth is an optimistic 35 to 50$ each on a very good day.
These probably were a late nite TV coin show promotion item. ( "We only have 4 thousand of these sets available and we expect to have a sellout shortly.... Call in now and you should be able to still get one. Use our easy flex pay plan!" )
Always buy the coin, not the hype!
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shamm922 is a member here on CCF. Hammbone Oh, it's probably S. Hamm. I'd probably choose something else. |
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The treasury hoard was the Carson City Mint dollars sold in 1972.
The Redfield hoard coins sold by Paramount in the original Paramount Redfield Hoard holders command enough of a premium it would not benefit anyone to crack them out to include in this set. The vast majority of the Redfield dollars came from the San Francisco Mint.
He does not list any dates or mint marks on the coins included in this set.
Take that for what it is worth. . .
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There is a fair chance they are from those hoards but those are basically generic capital plastic holders and there is no way toe prove the provenance of the Casino, Treasury, or Continental hoard coins. The Redfield you could prove as long as it was in its special holder, but it has been removed from that. So basically all you have now are four generic MS dollars.
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I would not pay any more for a coin based on its provenance. If I know it is real and the price is fair, then I will buy it, regardless of who owned it before me.
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I understand why type this of provenance does carry a premium to some collectors. To me its neat, but not worth more. I wonder how much the original buyers of this set paid, seems to be a gimmicky type of product that a shop at home network would market. No offense to the ebay seller and CCF member, he might be spot on with the pricing, but this type of product is not for me. Edited by Joe2007
10/29/2014 11:49 pm
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Considering that the seller is a member of the board and should be knowledgeable, I'd bet that they were not the original purchaser of the set. I really doubt that a TPG would recertify these coins with a provenance label just based on the certificate provided by the marketer that assembled the set. Value should be just in the coins, plus maybe a little for the nice box. |
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Posted 10/29/2014 6:28 pm
