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Valued Member
United States
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I received a bag of 109 waffle Sac and Wash prez dollars that were "sweepings" from the US mint floor. Is there a market for these? and how are they formed?
Hopefully Errors can help me out.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Well, from what little knowledge I have on the topic, a waffle coin is a coin that doesn't meet the standards of the mint, and is put through a machine that 'waffles' them. The damage done purposefully makes the coins unable to circulate. There is a small market for waffled coins, and you can see some of them on ebay. Here's a link to a little more information on them. http://www.mintnews.com/story.php?artid=000017
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Valued Member
 United States
459 Posts |
Great. Thanks Kitty, I guess they'll join the rest of the garbage the mint sends us.
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Member
United States
703 Posts |
LOL, I just bought my first example of one, a kennedy because the price was right. I don't really consider these errors, but I wanted one example. they WILL sell on ebay. errror
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Valued Member
 United States
459 Posts |
They are already in the crucible.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1031 Posts |
I've looked at the pictures on ebay. Do you have pictures of the ones you have?
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Valued Member
 United States
459 Posts |
They did look like the same ones being offered by the mint and ebay. PM with your shipping info and when I get another bag I'll send'em your way.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Actually waffled coins come from batches where serious errors were found, so they decided to destroy the whole lot instead of picking through them to weed out the few errors. It's the mint's way of yanking errors before they make it out to the collectors, but it backfired on them...because people will buy ANYTHING, even scrap metal that the mint purposefully defaced.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would like to have 1 or some of these. I was a "people" when I bought "Looking Through Lincoln Cents". I've read this forum, read books, read "Looking Through Lincoln Cents", and now I hope I'm a collector. It's always nice to have 1 of something you don't have. Thank you Charles for making me look through every coin that's in my pocket. I've passed that on to many more people that are starting to look through their pocket change also.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I appreciate the comment, but the point wasn't to knock people who buy waffled coins. The point was to illustrate that the mint, even in their undying effort to kill the error market, unknowingly created yet another market in trying to get rid of the first market.
Officially the mint doesn't make mistakes...errors don't exist. So they kill the errors, and it creates a market. I think it's funny.
Oh...and having a waffle coin would be cool, but I see no long term escalation of value in them. Buy one cheap, have it to enjoy, but don't go crazy spending a fortune on them. I highly doubt there's much beyond a very shallow market for them, and I highly doubt they will become valuable like the errors they would have been.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I would like to have an example of a "waffle" too. I have an blank planchet and it would look nice next to it! Looks like NGC recognizes this as an error- I think it looks cool. http://cgi.ebay.com/US-Kennedy-Half...GC_W0QQitemZ120096017195QQihZ002QQcategoryZ105644QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem I would not pay that much for one though
Edited by chrsb 09/01/2007 10:41 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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They recognize waffles as an error because they frankly don't have a category in their system for "scrap metal". There is a market for them, but you have to watch for them to come up at a good price...you'll eventually find one at a decent price if you study them long enough.
My belief stands, however, that the market for them is quite shallow and has little chance of moving up, especially if they continue the practice, forever making pieces more and more available.
There's also a market for completely cancelled dies, on which not a single part of the design is still there...but would I buy one? Umm...I see no point. It's a bar of steel that used to be a die...it's not a die unless at least some of the original design that made it a die is still visible.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That makes it a little more clear. If I get a waffle coin, it will be to enjoy and collect. There are "people", "collectors", and "investors"...
Live and Let Live.
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Valued Member
 United States
459 Posts |
If anyone would like one (a waffle) pm me with shipping info and I will get one out to you when we get another bag (probably the end of Sept or begining of Oct)
They are usually prez, sacs, or quarts. I will give away whatever I find. Maybe someone will get lucky and get an off center strike as well?
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Member
United States
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If your selling the waffle coins id like some. Please pm with details.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm also interested in one. I tried to PM, but there's no contact info.
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