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1870 10 Cent With Repunched "10"

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 Posted 11/06/2014  7:58 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I don't have the Charlton with the 10 cent varieties, so can I get some input on this one. The 10 is repunched. Its a nice grade. Beautiful toning. But sadly its been cleaned. :(

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 Posted 11/06/2014  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john517 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like it has been whizzed by a buffer or something. Wide 0/0 I don't think the 1 is doubled looks more like accumulations or something I can't say for sure. It was a very high grade before it was cleaned MS60ish judging solely on the obverse uncleaned BV 1200+ according to my edition.
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 Posted 11/07/2014  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John517, why would you think this coin has been whizzed?
Does not look whizzed not polished or cleaned to me.
But, what do I know?
I think the 0 is MD and the 1? who knows? could be another digit under it?
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 Posted 11/07/2014  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john517 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Those lines you can see on the obverse are very typical on silver that has been buffed. I see it all the time when I buy large scrap silver lots. The OP stated that it has been cleaned which was my first clue to look for signs of cleaning. Buffing wheels use a special wax that removes the upper layer of the metal which leaves micro scars that look a lot like what I see in the pictures. Again I am only assuming but it is what it looks like to me.
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 Posted 11/08/2014  02:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Fantastic harsh cleaned coin-----best I've ever seen. There must have been a ugly blemish in the field.
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I looked at all the varieties----and picked coin 21, page 390
Obverse---no Die Deterioration of I or A of GRATIA
Reverse --Wide 187, even 7, narrow 0
ms60 $ 500 --- 2009
Most other varieties have low 7's or sloping 7's
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 Posted 11/08/2014  10:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 1 and 0 are the denomination numbers, not the numbers in the date.
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 Posted 11/08/2014  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Charlton lists 9 varieties for 1870.
None mention any denomination repunching ------sooo You have something special or it is only MD. That would explain the extra metal about the 1.
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Looking again at the catalog-----it appears that quite a few varieties have been repunched ---these catalogs do not have enough definition. I will be looking for something better in future for high value variety items.

Something like your close up photos!
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 Posted 11/09/2014  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Has the coin been certified as cleaned?
I still do not believe that it is harshly cleaned.
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 Posted 11/09/2014  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tfred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes it has be designated as cleaned.
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