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I had found this last winter and set it aside, on the obverse I am counting 5 clips, 2 full and 3 partial. On the reverse I count 5, 2 full and 3 partial. In the pic it's hard to see all 5 on the reverse. This is the most clipped penny or coin I've ever seen. What would you all think of grade on this and would it be worth putting on the market, saying that would it be wise to get a certification on this. Thanks and cheers. Jon   |
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Wow! Now how did that happen? Very cool specimen, I think it would be worth sending in for grading. When the experts verify that it is an authentic mint error clipping people can be certain they are getting what they pay for.
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I bought 18,000 pennies off a fellow last winter and found quite a few nice variety and errors inc 4 clipped pennies. I don't have experience enough to figure this one out so yes the experts I hope will shed light on it. cheers John and ty for the reply.
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I'm not sure I see five clips. I see three, with two more sides with weak rims that look like the Blakesly effect. Either way, still a nice error!
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Hi SlurExe, in hand the blakesly is there on all 5 clips, however I am really not sure how this would happen, I hope someone will have an explanation to help satisfy my mind here. Ty for your reply. Cheers, Jon
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Canada
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the 3 partials on the obverse are at, top of the crown, TH of Elizabeth and E of Elizabeth. On the reverse they are at, last A of Canada, between the 2 points of the right leaf and the right part of the N in CENT.
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I think the two partials you're seeing (above TH and below the last A of Canada) are the Blakesley effects. The clip above INA of Regina is a big clip, I'm sure a clip that big will have a Blakesley effect, and the side opposite to that clip is TH. The clip on top of D.G. is also fairly large and I think there will be a minor Blakesley effect too, the opposite side of that is the last A in Canada. The clip on top of the crown is too small for the Blakesley effect to occur.
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Ty for your description SlurExe as I'm being an info junkie here. Maybe I'm not fully aware of the definition of clipped or the definition of the Blakesly effect. I had thought a clip was of the field and or the rims, the Blakesly effect is the inner rim cut moving away from the outer rim cut and clip?
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M_d_in_guy, I'll try explaining in my own words but I'm not usually very good at this: the Blakesley effect refers to the weakness on the opposite rim. When the planchet goes through the upset mill to raise its edge and create a rim (the size of the upset mill is slightly smaller than the diameter of the Type 1 planchet to do this), there is no metal to push from the part that got clipped away, so the opposite rim is weak. error-ref.com is a great website for finding out about errors. Here's one for curved clipped planchets: http://www.error-ref.com/_curved_clips_/ |
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But back to you other questions.....is it worth selling ...YES. Does it need grading or certification....probably not. It is not that easy to find a 1985 clip of any kind. I think you would get $50 for this as is.....maybe even more.
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You are also dealing with a different (i.e., not round) collar die. The photos are not good enough for me to really decipher what is here...
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Pillar of the Community
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Ty Slurexe for the help on this.
Spp do you want me to mail you different pics of it?
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Some reason why you cant just post better pics right here?
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I hope these pics work better, cheers and ty for the replies. Jon   |
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SlurExe, ty for that link and now I understand clips. So what my coin has is 2 clips and 3 Blakesly Effects on it.
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You got it the other way around. It is 3 clips and 2 Blakesly effects from the larger clips.
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