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theologos09 Valued Member 50 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 8:22 pm Will be happy to find out any kind of information about coin. Thank you in advance! Report this Post to the Staff

Medieval Pillar of the Community 3772 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 8:33 pm The inscription looks very odd, cannot really make any sense of it. The arms on the reverse point to France. Maybe some crude forgery of a french coin? What is the weight and the diameter of the piece? Report this Post to the Staff
Fuzzy317 Moderator United States 14463 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 8:37 pm Are your images correct or are they reversed or mirror images? Report this Post to the Staff
theologos09 Valued Member 50 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 8:39 pm Dear Medieval Thank you for answer. weight is 2.15 gr diameter 21.5 mm Report this Post to the Staff
theologos09 Valued Member 50 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 8:41 pm Dear Fuzzy317 coin images is correct Thanks Report this Post to the Staff
Medieval Pillar of the Community 3772 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 9:03 pm Quote: Are your images correct or are they reversed or mirror images? That was my first thought as well, but that would make even less sense looking at the "E"s. Quote: weight is 2.15 gr That makes it the weight of a 1/12 Ecu (~2 1/4g) of Louis XIII (who started to use these arms on coins) or Louis XIV. Since the portrait is closer to Louis XIV (1643-1715) I personally would label it as a poorly made imitation (or counterfeit/fake) 1/12 Ecu of him. Report this Post to the Staff
theologos09 Valued Member 50 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 9:21 pm Dear Medieval Thank you agains. I now coin 1/12 Ecu and have in my collection a few more. What do you think about this coin modern imitation (or counterfeit/fake) ? or period imitation (or counterfeit/fake) ? Report this Post to the Staff
Medieval Pillar of the Community 3772 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 10:12 pm My gut feeling (for what it is worth) tends towards period imitation. Report this Post to the Staff
Sap Moderator Australia 16849 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 10:21 pm These coins, with the French (or similar) coat of arms on one side, were made by numerous Italian states in the mid-1600s for use in trade with the Ottoman Empire. In Italian they are known as "luigini", as they are indeed imitations of coins of Louis XIV. I own one luigino, similar to this one, from the otherwise numismatically unremarkable state of Loano. This one is more a copy-of-a-copy, as the coin was clearly made by an amateur - they didn't even know they were supposed to carve the dies "backwards". The backwards "666" visible above the crown is presumably an attempt at reproducing a "1666" date. Given its crudeness, it wasn't made to fool modern collectors, so I'd assume it does actually date from the mid-1600s - and was probably made locally in Greece, Turkey or Egypt rather than France or Italy. Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis Report this Post to the Staff
theologos09 Valued Member 50 Posts	Posted 11/09/2014 10:42 pm Dear Sap Thank you very much for your information. It was very beneficial for me thank you again. Could you please look other coin ? what do you think aboute VENETIAN COIN ? Report this Post to the Staff
expo77 New Member Italy 1 Posts	Posted 04/08/2015 3:45 pm Hi, I saw your fake of 1/12 ECU , compliments excellent coin . I collect Luigini and 1/12 ECU! I assure you that this is an interesting period imitation Report this Post to the Staff
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