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1966 Canada Silver Dollar With A Dot

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 Posted 11/10/2014  7:48 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Is anyone aware of a 1966 DOT.
someone asked me yesterday If I had on.
he said the DOT is behind the Indians head.
I have ever heard of it, nor seen one.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  8:06 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Used to be fairly popular at one time. They are around and now somewhat elusive. Neatest one I ever saw was a PL in an original 1966 PL set ! There was a roll offered on usedvictoria a couple of years ago, the guy was asking $700.00 for the lot. Funny I just checked the 2012 Charlton with the Silver dollar varieties and it is NOT listed.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  9:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lambecolin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Dots outside of design legends are die pits--- not design Dots. Only designed dots can be considered for true variety status.
But the market can decide a special market status for non-designed features and they will be listed in catalogs as a market variety---such as 1936 10cent BAR (Which is only a simple die crack)
I guess the Indian head dot did not make it into a market premium coin.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
wow, had no idea about that.

lambecolin,
how do you explain the 1947 P7 dot? and the 1936 quarter-dot?
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Oh yes ----you have a point --the 47 , 36 dots are designed dots but they occur on only a certain percentage of the series. Therefore are true varieties.
So we have 1 True variety Dots
2 Pit Dots---not recognized,rare or common
3 Market Bars and Dots-recognized
4 Designed Dots--common to whole series
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1936 dot quarter is an officially issued coin from 1937. All of the 1947 dot 5 cent and 25 cent coinage is the result of die pits that by fluke just happened to end up after the 7 in the date. Over time they became accepted and now command premiums. The five cent 1947 dot actually has three dots. The 1947 25 cents can be found out of junk silver occasionally if you are patient and have the opportunity to go through lots of coins . The 1947 pointed Dot Dollar is a personal favourite and is quite elusive in higher grades (MS60 or better). Theories as to the dot on the dollar range from die pit, more properly described as missing chrome plate, to a mint worker actually marking ( intentionally or otherwise), a still useable specimen die that was then used to strike some circulation coins. Every dot dollar I have handled seems to have slightly superior reverse details as compared to non Dot pointed 7's. Also the reverse seems to be a single die which seems to have been married to 2 different obverse dies. In the next week or so I have 4 dot 47's coming back from ICCS , three of which are single HP obverses and one is a double HP obverse. Certainly an interesting year (1947) in Canadian numismatics.
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@Pacificoin, maybe this has been discussed ad nauseam, but I've always been curious why there isn't more speculation that the 47 dots were actually 48s with the dot either experimental or some kind of placeholder for the maple leaf. Is there conclusive evidence that all three denominations are die pits? It just seems way too coincidental that three denominations all end up with dots in almost the exact location as the maple leaf. With the 1936 dots (minted in 1937) as a precedent, I can picture the mint thinking they would just repeat the dot strategy in 1948 to differentiate the year (after all, it was only 11 years after 1937, and lots of the same employees/mgmt were probably still there), then somebody overrides it and says nah, punch a maple leaf in there, let's not mess around with the dot thing again. Clearly they were under pressure to get some coins out there in early '48. On the other hand, realizing that there are plenty of other dots on Canadian coins, perhaps the popularity of the 1947 dots simply got started _because_ they were so close to where the maple leaf ended up?

Sorry to derail the OP's thread; just something I've wondered for a while.
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This is a single HP dot 47 dollar.

Interesting to hear that this 47 dot might have been struck from a specimen die afterwards for these business strikes..

There is a dramatic difference in the frosty/cameo surfaces of the canoe and trees when compared to the fields on this reverse.

Anymore "gems of info" to add in here would be welcome.


.....and how would you best describe the "die burn" showing on his jaw and in the hair..? We see this a lot on this series.

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Tell me if you need close up pics for the different die markers...if that's what your plans are..

Thanks...


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will post images of mine hopefully tomorrow to compare.
nice morning, coolish here on the Island. out to see if the mushrooms are stiff already ( frozen).
to nice to stay in playing with coins.
CU guys later
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