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Looking For A 4th Century Istros Coin. Need Advice

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 Posted 11/12/2014  12:11 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello all,

I have been interested in the 4th Century Istros design with 2 heads, one inverted with a Sea Eagle/Dolphin reverse.
I have noticed that there are quite a few reproductions out there, not all are marked.

What should I keep my eye out for when looking at this series to make sure I get an(Better chance) authentic one. Unfortuantely, I am relegated to online purchases, as there are essentially no ancients in my area at any of the shops(one has a few, but is wanting a ton for just common and ugly Fel Temps and the such)

I dont have a ton of money to spend, but wanted to get myself a B-day present. So dropping money and getting a fake would be a bit heartbreaking.
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 Posted 11/12/2014  12:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There are a lot of fakes of this type. When I had my eye out for one, watching ebay, it felt like over half must have been dodgy. Perhaps when you spot one that you think might be OK you should post the images here for second opinions before committing to buy...
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 Posted 11/12/2014  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the quick reply, I had the same notion after looking at all those online, and seeing quite a few marketed as replicas that looked pretty legit to the new eye.

Here are pictures of the one I am currently looking it.

Looking-For-A-4th-Century-Istros-Coin.--Need-Advice

Looking-For-A-4th-Century-Istros-Coin.--Need-Advice

* Note, not sure why the reverse is showing smaller, same sized pictures were downloaded, and optimized the same way.
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11/12/2014 12:40 pm
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 Posted 11/12/2014  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Valecrucis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At first glance I can see no obvious indications that it is a fake, but the pictures are not very clear, particularly the reverse. I'm not entirely convinced by the style. What is its weight? Is it the drachm or hemidrachm? With this type you should probably not take a risk with a dealer you do not have good reasons to trust.

Disclaimer* My opinions re. authenticity need to be taken with the pinch of salt they deserve and my strongest recommendation is that you seek more qualified opinions. I still have doubts about the Istros drachm I have.
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11/12/2014 1:34 pm
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 Posted 11/12/2014  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the input Valecrucis.
Its on everyone's favorite auction site, so, its limited on trust. The seller is located in the UK, and is relatively new with 1 accusation of a Fake.
I much rather buy it from some one on here who I have seen around.
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I think you are wise, on the basis of what you say, to avoid that dealer with this type of coin. If that coin did happen to be genuine, then it would be a better example than mine tho'.

Here is mine btw..I don't have particularly serious doubts about it...just the usual paranoia with this type...and that I got it from 'that' auction site...though at least from a long term dealer there with no particular black marks or voices of criticism surrounding him.

Looking-For-A-4th-Century-Istros-Coin.--Need-Advice
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 Posted 11/12/2014  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Probably fake, I saw his profile
-all private listings
-location - Europe, United Kingdom - city named Europe in the UK?
but then in his profile it says Based in United States
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11/12/2014 1:45 pm
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 Posted 11/12/2014  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, after looking at his "reputation" I'm going to steer clear of this one. Thank you guys for your input!
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Quote:
wanted to get myself a B-day present


My advice in that case would be to nominate the amount of money you would want to spend and lock it away on your birthday in an envelop marked 'For my Istros coin' and the next time you have access to a reliable dealer purchase it then. While not ideal, it would be the safe way to go.
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