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Silver Military Survival Rounds

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Here are some 1984-1986 Engelhard silver rounds I got at a DRMO (military version of a flea market) sale several years ago. These were from Minuteman Missile Maintenance Survival kits. There were like 50 of these in each kit along with other survival equipment and were to be used to obtain shelter, food, or communication back to the base. This was way before satellite cell phones, etc.

We (the missile maint crews) would travel all over the western portion of South and North Dakota often times hundreds of miles from any military base or town in horrendous winter weather and with every trip taken there was a survival kit in the truck/van.

Nine Rounds, paid $5 each at the sale.
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 Posted 09/04/2007  11:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jcook54 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a great buy. I never thought to cruise the survivalist flea markets for anything other than MRE's. Good job!
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 Posted 09/04/2007  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You got me there. Being a gun nut I thought you were referring to Silver bullets like the Lone Ranger used.
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 Posted 09/04/2007  11:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Chuckle, No those were kept out of the auction. These are extremely hard to find because most were given away as souvenirs to the old 44th Strategic Missile Wing members. One side was smoothed off and there was an inscription carved onto it. Something like "44th SMW 1960-1990 Deterrence against Aggression."

I did see some beat-up Rem. 870 shotguns which held 10 rounds at a pawn shop once. These were used on the actual missile sites to prevent access down the Primary Access Hatch. Ahem, there was no requirement for extreme marksmanship...

Ben
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09/04/2007 11:51 am
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 Posted 09/04/2007  3:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice story, but with no tangible proof to tie the rounds to the survival gear they are just silver rounds and the story is just a story. The seller can always just buy more rounds and make the same claim as to their source. (Although the 1984-86 dates would be a little harder for the sellr to locate again.)
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As a pure collector I cherish the background of every-piece I have just as much as the numismatic item itself. To me my collection is a collection of history, legend, and knowledge. To me it's much more than just the shallow views of "how much it will be worth when I sell it" and, if I were to sell it, (all of it) it would be a pretty penny.

My collection and the history of each piece will be passed down to my children as it was to me and I sincerely hope their children will enjoy it and the stories I've included concerning each item.

As a pure collector I don't sell.
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quote:
You got me there. Being a gun nut I thought you were referring to Silver bullets like the Lone Ranger used.


I was thinking the same thing.

Beautiful coins!
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 Posted 09/04/2007  8:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dewayne76 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is the first I have heard of this. Good story.
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Figures I can't find anything on the Internet about the B-52 "barter-kit's." But I remember the government auctioned these when gold ownership was legalized. The kit had some gold in it. And if I remember right some currency, cigarettes, a pistol and other stuff, that: "shoot, fella can a good time in Vegas with all that stuff." Slim Pickens--Dr. Strangelove.

Doesn't anyone remember them? It was almost exactly at the time gold ownership was made legal.

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 Posted 09/05/2007  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
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Figures I can't find anything on the Internet about the B-52 "barter-kit's." But I remember the government auctioned these when gold ownership was legalized. The kit had some gold in it. And if I remember right some currency, cigarettes, a pistol and other stuff, that: "shoot, fella can a good time in Vegas with all that stuff." Slim Pickens--Dr. Strangelove.

Doesn't anyone remember them? It was almost exactly at the time gold ownership was made legal.



You will be hard pressed to find any kits which still have the silver (or gold) in them because low ranking, low paid military members were soley responsible for packing and sealing (either with lead or tape) the survival kits. LOL..;.
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Bonedigger I like your answer about being a collector and the heck with anything else. Way to many have to place a value on everything and never stop to see the actual enjoyment of having something to be remembered by. I remember my Dad because of what he left me. It doesn't matter if valuable or not.

Figures I can't find anything on the Internet about the B-52 "barter-kit's." But I remember the government auctioned these when gold ownership was legalized. The kit had some gold in it. And if I remember right some currency, cigarettes, a pistol and other stuff, that: "shoot, fella can a good time in Vegas with all that stuff." Slim Pickens--Dr. Strangelove.
Doesn't anyone remember them? It was almost exactly at the time gold ownership was made legal.

And as to this statement. At my age I have a difficult time when I go out to the garage remembering why I'm there.
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 Posted 09/05/2007  2:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just google "barter-kit" or "survival kit" and "silver" or "gold". They were used and carried by more than just the flying guys.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...oogle+Search
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You are correct Carl, I remember the sale of those war surplus kit as well. There were a couple different varieties of kit sold and they could not guarantee what coins you would get in each kit, but they dd guarantee a certain weight of gold. These were the US kits, there were similar kits issued by different governments to their men.
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Wow these are very interesting pieces I wonder if any come up for sale
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