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1968 Penny With Brockerage?

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Hi guys, I found this last night while roll searching. I am not sure if this is a garage job or legit.

Please let me know your thoughts

1968-Penny-With-Brockerage?

1968-Penny-With-Brockerage?

1968-Penny-With-Brockerage?

So my questions would be, is this brockerage? if not what? and what value would this have?
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like PMD to me.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:07 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like a vise was used ....................PMD.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ace_ftw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, what markers are you looking for to tell if it is PMD vs Mint brockerage?
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The damage on the right rim.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add darryldarryl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
PMD !
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The fact that it is low grade. An error this spectacular would have been taken out of circulation long before it got to this point. As John said the damage on the rim is troubling. There is always the certification option to make absolutely sure.
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 Posted 11/20/2014  12:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scissel to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The flattening on the obverse suggests that the coin was not in a coin press when it was impressed on the reverse. So, PMD
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OK, thanks I will toss this one back, hopefully the next one is a keeper!
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 Posted 11/20/2014  2:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rottnrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
vise job !!
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Quote:
I will toss this one back...


Yeah. ARP it!
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have any of you ever used a quality Record vice, I don't mean to be rude, but you might want to rethink if it is a PMD. A vice would leave quite a bit of small checkering, or other repetitive marks. this coin does not seem to have any.

In addition, how could you use a vice if you wanted to make this into a Brockage, or even a partial clip. I think that the marks are from the actual mints press and die.

I may be wrong, but before you toss it, just wait on it and still put a 2x2 and use it as a conversation piece.
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I'd hang on to it. Even just as an example. What did it cost you? lol
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 Posted 11/21/2014  12:25 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You would use a flat plate to keep the Record vise marks off. Machine shop grade 8.
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pacific,
how would you know?
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No care was taken to hide it from being PMD. I think it was 2 coins on a bench with a hammer 2 hits.
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