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Opinions On Two Morgans Grading

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 Posted 11/21/2014  07:18 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Platypus to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hello everyone,

I have a PCGS voucher that I need to use and I'm yet to decide which coins to send, can you help grading these two 1892S & 1903S Morgans, Wanted to have your input to compare with my own idea of these coins grading.

Will be posting more photos of other Morgans later

Thanks all

1892-S
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 Posted 11/21/2014  07:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I see the 1892-S as VF.
And the 1903-S as at best F.
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 Posted 11/21/2014  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lucky Cuss to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


Relative grades aside, submit the 1892-S; it's the greater rarity, more often faked, and thus benefits the most from certification.
Colligo ergo sum
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11/21/2014 09:05 am
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I'd say VF20 and F12. Send the 1892 S
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I would send the 92-S in before the 03-S. Have a closer look at the 03-S and see if it is the micro S type. Here is a link to vamworld.
http://www.vamworld.com/1903-S+VAM-2
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 Posted 11/21/2014  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junjun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
VF20
F12
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I agree with the other opinions,

1892-S VF

1903-S F12

The "s" does look small on the 1903....good call by NLP on checking it out.
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VF-25 and F-12

The 1892 S looks genuine when compared to the AliExpress examples.
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 Posted 11/22/2014  04:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Platypus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys for the inputs, much appreciated.

Looks like there's a majority of F12 for the 1903s and VF20 for the 1892s, I was thinking VG10 / VF25 so it's always good to have different opinions :)

Thanks NLP for spotting that micro S, I did go through thr VAM website page and it looks like my coin has a Micro S.

Now I have a question, if I submit it to PCGS, are they going to detect the VAM variety by themselves and put it on the holder description or is it an optional service?

Thanks again
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11/22/2014 04:02 am
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 Posted 11/22/2014  3:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MorganGrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The '92-S looks like it has an old cleaning on the obverse.
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Now I have a question, if I submit it to PCGS, are they going to detect the VAM variety by themselves and put it on the holder description or is it an optional service?

They will attribute it as VAM 2 Small S. It is an optional service that cost $24. Same goes with mint errors. Even if you have the most obvious mint error (for example, 60 degree rotated dies) they wont attribute it unless you pay the fee. For example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1878-CC-PCG...em5afe82f827
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I agree with the others here, both coins are probably worth having certified today, as both are often counterfeited by chinese dies, and they both have a good value attached to them. PCGS would get you the most value when reselling them, if that is your intention.
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 Posted 11/23/2014  8:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatchaser140 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1892-S: VF details, cleaned and retoned.
1903-S: F-12
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