Possible 2010-D Wdoubled Die Obverse / DDO -001 Lincoln Shield Cent / LSC What Do You Think?

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Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 12:44 pm This LIBERTY looks fat to me. I can match an overlay of Wexler's RTY with this one. Also, I have indicated where the markers may be if I understand him correctly. What do you think? My eyes and wishes frequently deceive me, so I value your thoughts. My photos may not be clear enough, but it seems to be the best I can do. Thanks for looking. Here is some different lighting - trying to get what I think is the marker above the E to show better: Edited by Pete2226 11/26/2014 1:26 pm Report this Post to the Staff

John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 3:39 pm Yours does not look like the one on CC's site. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 3:45 pm Thanks, John1. I am thinking that CC and Wexler are identifying 2 different coins. At least they do not cross reference each other and they give different markers for the coins they have identified. It is a little confusing to me. Can you comment on that? Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 5:36 pm We need to wait for coop. I am having trouble matching Wexlers site also. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
still lookin Pillar of the Community 967 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 6:27 pm I have a 2010 P DDO that I don't think is listed on either website. I was just holding on to it until someone submits. I does not match the coin listed above. Still Lookin Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 6:56 pm Hello still lookin - could you post a photo? Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 6:57 pm John1 - what do you see as not matching? Have you tried an overlay? (It may be that I am doing the overlay incorrectly. I cannot post it because Wexler's images are copyrighted.) Edited by Pete2226 11/26/2014 7:06 pm Report this Post to the Staff
still lookin Pillar of the Community 967 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 7:41 pm As requested. Below are the photos of the one that I am holding. Still Lookin Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 7:59 pm Quote: John1 - what do you see as not matching? Mainly the date on your coin. Liberty looks a bit puffy though so maybe a minor DDO but not 001? I am not smart enough to do an overlay John1 Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 8:11 pm John1 - Wexler does not show an image of the date. Apparently it is not a part of the identification for his coin...I think you are still talking about the coin on CC. My reference for this coin is WDDO-001. The W in the ID indicates Wexler, I think. Here is the link to the Wexler coin: http://doubleddie.com/846297.html Edited by Pete2226 11/26/2014 8:25 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 8:17 pm Thanks still lookin - I tried an overlay of the Wexler coin on years and it does not match - so that is not it, I think. The RTY on your coin certainly looks fat to me. Report this Post to the Staff
still lookin Pillar of the Community 967 Posts	Posted 11/26/2014 8:49 pm I do know that the one I have is not on Wexler's site. It may however match coppercoins. I may at some point send it to Mr Wexler. Still Lookin Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 11/27/2014 01:19 am I don't think it is a doubled die. The date is showing some MD, but the 1 looks interesting. The 001 on coppercoins on LIBERTY is a lot stronger. Note the doubling on LIBERTY is on the upright devices in that area, but I'm not seeing that on your coin. http://www.coppercoins.com/lincoln/...ie_state=eds But the glare is pretty strong on your images to tell for sure what is going on. So mark it for now until you can get better images with less glare. There is evidence of Die Deterioration on the date on the right side of the devices. Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/27/2014 02:46 am Thanks coop. You are talking about 2 things - the date and the appearance of LIBERTY on coppercoins. I have not been comparing my coin to that one. I am comparing my coin to the one on Wexler's list (link indicated above). He does not show a date at all. I did an overlay from what he shows, and it seems to fit fine with my coin. I am fairly convinced that there are two different coins represented on those two sites. So I did an overlay of the coin an Wexler (first image) with the one on coppeercoins, and they do not match. The RTY from Wexler is more widely spaced than that from coppercoins. Since there is no date image showing on Wexler, I don't see how any observations about it are relevant. Let me repeat that my overlay of Wexlers image with my coin matches. Maybe I have done it incorrectly and would be willing for you to try it and tell me where I went wrong. You taught me about overlays over a year ago and I am grateful for that. Wexler and coppercoins do not claim that they show the same coin: there is no crossreferencing of each other's coin. Also they show different markers from each other. I think that the way to question this identification I am proposing is by questioning my identification of the markers. Since Wexler does not give images, but describes them verbally, I may have misunderstood him. Also, there are possible secondary markers on this coin which he may be referencing. I picked the ones which seemed to me to fit his description best. Thanks for your help. I would like to hear your comments on the 2 sources featuring different coins. Edited by Pete2226 11/27/2014 03:06 am Report this Post to the Staff
Pete2226 Pillar of the Community United States 3330 Posts	Posted 11/27/2014 09:04 am I have tried to take some better photos which is quite a challenge for me. The one of the Reverse identifies four possible markers Wexler may be referencing - just can't tell from his description. You may have to make the image larger on your screen to see. I have also added a photo of the third marker. Edited by Pete2226 11/27/2014 09:06 am Report this Post to the Staff
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Possible 2010-D WDDO-001 LSC What Do You Think?