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Old type coins by the jarful, but it sounds like a crock!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/27168601368...RK:MEBIDX:IT

That's a pretty small house to have held such a hoard, eh what?






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Curious how all the better date coins are so nicely arranged vertically on the sides of the jar.
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Looks too good to be true.

Not saying any of the coins are fake (because the dealer is very reputable) but something about this looks a bit fishy to me.

EDIT: "Curious how all the better date coins are so nicely arranged vertically on the sides of the jar."

Amen, that was something that I noticed as well. Looks a little too nice.
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yeah the silver certificate looks a bit staged, too.

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Once again, I always ask, if the coins were good, why wouldn't a coin dealer like this open them up and sell the good ones at full price? He lists possibilities of the visible coins being worth thousands. I suspect It's because he knows most of it is crap and the best way to make a profit is to make people gamble.

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Judging from....reality....this is a pretty profitable gig, like loaded Cent rolls.
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The position of the dentils below the 1893 date rules out an S-mint. Yet, the jar looks like it's in mint condition!
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11/29/2014 4:02 pm
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I don't believe this story for 1 minute. Now if he really plans to offer more of this stuff in the future, he would probably salt the first few of the coin jars. Right?
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Judging from....reality....this is a pretty profitable gig, like loaded Cent rolls.


Like how all of those wheat cents are in the interior of the jar while all of the big $$$$ coins are prominently displayed. I'd also expect the dates of the newest and oldest to be a lot closer if it was a legit hoard and it must not be a very old hoard if it has Roosevelt dimes included.

Tried to do a reverse image search on that cottage but didn't get any results.
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I was reading to full description and I noticed a few discrepancies in his story.

He talks about the history of this house and how Teddy Roosevelt stayed in the house on his hunting trips. Makes you wonder: how is this house protected and on the register of historical places.

Plus he has no pictures of the hoard in its context in the house and it seems fishy how conveniently NOTHING beyond 1964 was observed. He also says he made a deal without first looking at the coins. Seems completely stupid and fishy to me.
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Preliminary research says that the Silver Dollar Ranch is located in Wayland, Michigan, not Montana.

Also, I haven't found the house demolition picture on Google Images yet, but that doesn't mean it's not there...
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It's not anything more than salesmanship which is consistent in all of this auctions. Its all hype. Its an arranged jar of coins and the center will be filled with wheaties and lib nickels. Whomever wins this is going to wind up overpaying for coins that are damaging each other by rattling around on each other and were not worth the money to begin with. Its such a farce but hey, suckers and the uninformed like and will pay for a good story.
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Up to $620 and still climbing.
You know the old saying....If it's too good to be true, it probably is.
From beginning to end I noticed he used the key words "could be worth".
Well, that should be a red flag right there!
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Sounds like a "crock."

Very funny.

Yeah, totally staged. At least he went one better than the last guy who used a modern canning jar. This jar looks old and might even be worth a few bucks too.

Seller will make out like a bandit.
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the jar is common as grass. It has little value and that is to an uninformed mason jar collector. At best it is a Ball jar of standard configurtion. I have several. Cap is a standard zinc cap last time a bought some I pad $2 for 9. Cant retire on that either.
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Okay, ask yourself: If you discovered such a jar and could see a 1909-S cent inside, would you

1) Tear the lid off to see if it's an S-VDB
2) Leave the jar alone and sell it to people you don't know as a possible S-VDB, whereas if it is, you'd be losing a ton of money on the deal?

The guy writes fun fiction, though. He needs to be careful about his claims, though--early on he promises that the jar has not been searched, but later he describes the coins' condition. If he didn't search, how would he know?
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