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 Posted 11/30/2014  9:34 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Thaphenom to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all. Names thaphenom. Just wondering what everyone's take is on getting into buying silver right now. Is it a good time? Coins or bullion? Thanks again
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 Posted 11/30/2014  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Thaphenom to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And where would you recommend as being the best place to buy from?
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 Posted 11/30/2014  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Have you ever tried to catch a falling knife? You may get a similar feeling after buying silver right now...

Don't get me wrong.. I LOVE silver and gold... but right now I'm holding cash and when I really get the itch I either only buy a very small amount or I look at certain antique furniture that I've had my eye on for awhile...

My best advice would be to wait until silver is actually gaining some momementum... don't worry about getting right in at the very bottom.... wait until you see that there is some support and growth... NOW is not that time....

As for WHERE to buy... there's a LOT of reputable places... if you have a local coin shop in the area check with them first! If not look into a bigger PM wholesaler.. MCM or Kitco or APMEX come to mind right off the top of my head that are in the states...
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 Posted 11/30/2014  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morbidsteve to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd suggest going to comparesilverprices.com and checking the prices there. You will find APMEX is not usually the best source except for ebay deals (IMHO)
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 Posted 11/30/2014  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
dont waste your time buying silver nor gold right now,, dont listen to anyone who says dollar cost average,

if you are a collector, buy, look for deals. but if you are looking at buying silver for investment, whether long term (decades) dont waste your time...

btw, for the record- I ENJOY COLLECTING GOLD AND SILVER COINS. I have no problem with coins nor silver and gold. I would be the first guy to say I like the shiny stuff.... but as far as stacking, investing, this downtrend is going to frustrate you and you will have remorse as the prices drops, goes higher, drops lower, moves higher, drops lower.. buying dips is a suckers game.

FINALLY, if you buy, as PMs get smashed, please make sure dealers you buy from are adjusting prices down, not up as prices drop. see my threads for more info.
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 Posted 11/30/2014  10:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
JM Bullion is the cheapest I've found so far...and free shipping.

Whatever you do, remember...silver WILL go back up...eventually. Maybe a year, maybe two. It can't stay down too long (mines are currently loosing money). At least that's how I view it...bought a little too high, semi-regretting it now. (I say semi, since I know prices must rebound, and I will eventually make a profit)

Some advice: be prepared for silver to go DOWN once you buy. Prepare yourself for silver to go down by $1-2 once you pull the trigger. It'll make the pain easier to manage understanding that should it happen, and if it doesn't go down that much, you'll feel bad it went down, but happy it didn't go down to what you expected it to.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  05:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why buy it when you can pull silver coin from the ground for free? I've found HUNDREDS!
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 Posted 12/01/2014  10:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Whatever you do, remember...silver WILL go back up...eventually

Unless, of course, it doesn't.

Silver was at or around $5 per ounce for many years, despite the rest of the economy bouncing around like a yo-yo. When it did start to rise, people had all sorts of explanations for why it was happening and, since none of those factors seemed likely to change (the economy was still struggling, the debt was still increasing, the Fed was still printing money, the mines were still losing money, etc.), a lot of people claimed that the price of silver would necessarily keep rising. When silver hit $40, many (not everybody, but many) took it as vindication and a sure sign that silver would eventually hit $50 and perhaps even $100 or higher.

Of course, then silver prices crashed and have returned to levels not seen since 2010. Despite the fact that the economy is still struggling, we still have a lot of debt, the Fed is still printing money, the mines are still losing money, etc. At this point, you have to ask whether the silver price was being artificially inflated and has returned to normal levels or whether it is being artificially manipulated now to keep it from continuing to grow. Are we headed back down to historically low levels, or is this just a significant bump along the way to much higher prices in the future? The only honest answer is that nobody really knows for sure, despite whatever special knowledge or pet theories they may have.

Like Groszy, I bought when silver was high, thinking it was only going to go higher. I definitely regret that. I also practiced "dollar averaging" as prices dropped, figuring that prices wouldn't drop too far before coming back up. Every time prices have crept back up a bit, however, they have eventually fallen even further. With the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, I can say I wish I hadn't bought any silver bullion in 2011 and 2012 since I could have purchased much of it for less than half the price now. The thing is, though, I'm not even sure I would have been willing to "back up the truck" when silver dipped below $15, since at this point I'm a bit spooked that prices may continue this downward trend and end up back below $10 at some point. All the people who say this could never happen are the same people who said that silver was never going to fall below $30 again, or below $25 or below $20...

For now, I'm just going to hold onto the silver I bought and hope prices are much higher if and when I ever need to sell anything (years down the line, hopefully). But I am no longer in the market to buy more silver in bulk, even if it did someday drop back down to $5 per ounce. That's just me, of course, and I could be completely and utterly wrong about the future of silver. I'm just tired of listing to all the people who talk about how prices will definitely go back up (any day now, later this year, within a few years, by the end of the decade, etc.). Been there, done that, drank the Kool-Aid and made the t-shirt.

And yes, I sincerely apologize in advance if you decide to not buy any silver now and it ends up going up to $100/ounce in the coming months...
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 Posted 12/01/2014  2:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add carmykle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only silver I'm buying right now are the coins to complete collections. Love the falling knife analogy!
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 Posted 12/01/2014  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add traevin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Barry's a good one to listen to, Thaph. An honest voice with no agenda. He didn't have to mention that he made a mistake but did so willingly, on his own volition, because he wanted to help you. His healthy ego and natural level of integrity wouldn't allow him to make excuses that would mitigate his error in judgment like many of us might have done in a similar situation. When someone does something like that for a simple stranger, it tells you this individual is trustworthy, and that's a quality that's worth more than man's weight in silver and gold.

And don't buy into the "mine's are losing money so silver can't stay this low" excuse, for a lot of reasons, but the best one is the simplest and easiest to wrap one's head around: most mines don't mine for silver at all. Odd, right? So how does is it get out of the ground, one might ask? Well, as a by-product of what the miners are really after, like copper, tungsten, lead, zinc, and gold, among other metals. All of these metals would also have to fall below the level of being unprofitable to mine long before anyone worried about how low silver prices had reached.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Northerncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Why buy it when you can pull silver coin from the ground for free? I've found HUNDREDS!


Maybe so but how much fuel does your vehicle use to travel to your "dig sites" plus when you pull it out of the ground its all dirty and worn, I can just sit at home and order nice shiny new silver stuffs and not have to even start my car.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interpret whats being said here for yourself! I would be careful of buying in bulk quantity for a while, as a collector I don't mine buying few ounces to add to my collection, and if you are looking to make a quick buck. Silver bullion may not be good as an investment now.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  8:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fistfulladirt to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Maybe so but how much fuel does your vehicle use to travel to your "dig sites" plus when you pull it out of the ground its all dirty and worn, I can just sit at home and order nice shiny new silver stuffs and not have to even start my car.
You're right! How exciting!
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 Posted 12/01/2014  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What would you guys consider "Bulk Quantity"? I have often wondered this? 10, 20, 50, 100 ounces? I may buy 5-10 ounces a month but I do not consider myself buying in bulk quantity. I'm really curious to see others response to what buying in "bulk quantity" means to them.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What would you guys consider "Bulk Quantity"?


I think this depends on individual collector/stacker, my opinion and only me is that anywhere 25 ounces and above per month would be high, but I would purchase a numismatic coin that value as much as 25 ounces of silver or more where I see fit.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  11:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rarecollectibles to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Adding a little silver to your portfolio wouldn't be a bad move. Much better to enter now than when it was $30-$35 an ounce. I would stick with pre-64 US currency as it will always carry a premium over silver rounds.
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