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Pillar of the Community
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I don't recall ever seeing a wrong planchet error where the host planchet is larger than the die. For instance a dime struck on a quarter planchet.
Is there a reason for this, or do they exist and I just haven't seen any?
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Rest in Peace
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Jimbucks, they do exist. I do not have my reference books or sites but they are out there . Off hand there is a number of Sacagawea dollars with a States Quarter reverse. I know there are a lot more but my time is limited for "honey do's" or dog house time. lol |
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I wouldn't think a larger planchet would even feed, much less fit, without broadstriking. The collar wouldn't work. The Sacagawea is 1mm all around larger than a Quarter; that might have fit.
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From the book: "100 Greatest U.S. Error Coins" No. 12 is ---- 1993 D Lincoln Cent Mule (dime reverse) Unique There may be more in the book but my husband says it's time for supper.... |
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They are an impossible error and do not exist for the reasons Superdave gave. The examples given above are mules and not wrong planchet errors. A wrong planchet error would be a cent planchet with a dime design on both sides or a Sac planchet with a State Quarter design on both sides. But a mule error has the correct planchet with one correct die and the error is an incorrect die was installed on one side only. |
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Yeah,when I was reading up on planchet errors every article I read said its impossible to have a larger planchet fed into a smaller diameter die/collar...if I'm saying that correctly...other words nickel struck on a quarter planchet or dime struck on nickel planchet etc...
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Yeah, if you're dumb enough to put a Dime die into the Quarter machine, all bets are off.  |
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I don't think it's impossible. While the example I gave is a mule, the only thing keeping it from being a dime one a cent planchet was that one of the two dies was changed. One wasn't, which is how it became a mule. Seems to me, if one die was wrong, the other could be as well. The feeder and collar would have to be correct for the planchet, but I suppose it is possible for both dime dies to have been present.
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmmm-would that even be considered a wrong planchet error?
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Pillar of the Community
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This is getn too confusing for me  ill just sit back n watch now |
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Even though I don't think one even exist I believe the example you gave Buddy would be considered a two sided mule. The press was setup for a certain size planchet which was struck and the collar was setup correct. The two dies would be the only thing incorrect which would make the struck coin a mule. A wrong planchet error is when a planchet is fed into a press which was setup for a different size planchet. If the different size planchet was too large it would not feed correctly and would not fit into the collar.
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Bedrock of the Community
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What if it was mint assisted? There was a slabbed on on Heritage a while back and it was felt that it was mint assisted?  Remember back at that time a number of coins were surfacing that we determined later to be a mint employee doing this from the Philly mint? So I would say it could happen. It would not fit into the collar, but if assisted a mint employee might do this. |
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That's a good point Coop. Anything can happen with a mint assisted error. I personally look at mint assited errors like modern Chinese counterfeits so I tend to overlook them.
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 Oh those scamps at the mint!! Two-sided mule? Off-metal?  |
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There is a 1981 Lincoln Cent struck on a nickel planchet on ebay right now. It's been "known" for quite a while. An interesting piece, though assisted. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1981-CENT-o...em3a87405775There are also many Canadian errors with planchets larger than the dies (I think from somewhere in the 70s and 80s). More recently, with the flow of errors coming out of Malaysia, there were some of this error type coming out of there as well. |
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Only 225k...is it surprising that they even graded that?
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