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Are These Scratches From Handling Or Cleaning? 1939 Dollar

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It is 70 years old after all, and I got it in a lot of assorted dollars, but I don't know how to "read"
scratches

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it appears to of been cleaned IMO.
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harshly cleaned coin unfortunately
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some of the scratches might be handling, but the majority of them are from cleaning
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Its not as sad being a 1939 and all but a 40`s dollar, you gotta wonder how those things look before there cleaned and if its even worth it to do so.
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Here are a couple more from the same lot and they show the same signs.
I did get them at junk silver price though, so I cannot complain at that.

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I guess they used a wire brush?
would a toothbrush do that as well?
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Too bad it's been cleaned.
Looks like it might have been a AU graded coin.
When you see long parallel scratches, it usually means cleaning.
Bag marks & handling marks are shorter and scattered in all directions.
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IMO cleaned, possibly vey fine steel wool.
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Definitely cleaned with something.

Non collectors always feel that a shiny silver coin will look better if made to look "nice and bright".

I was very lucky that all of my silver dollars were not cleaned by the couple that had them..I still would have bought them..but would have cried all of the way home..

It could be as simple as grit in a kleenex ..and a good hard rub..
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When I was a kid, a toothbrush with baking soda was the preferred (thought to be harmless) method.
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dumb question here:
both the brush and soda are softer than silver. How can it scratch? Logic says Not.
I have never tried it.
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both the brush and soda are softer than silver. How can it scratch? Logic says Not.


There are no dumb questions. It's all about learning. To be honest, I am not sure what the answer is either. My guess is that the cleaning chemical reacts and messes around with the metal's particles. It re-aligns the particles, and so by a brush's stroke or a cloth, you would get these "scratch" marks which are just the way the metal re-aligned.

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Just because one substance is softer doesn't meant that no damage is taking place.

It just means that a lot more of the softer substance (any powder for instance) is needed when compared to the harder surface. Whizzing was often done with an air jet and baking powder.(and probably still is)

The baking powder slowly eats away at the metal surface with the aid of air speed leaving soft "beautiful" surfaces ...and damaged goods..
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That description of whizzing sounds like sandblasting!
I was told that whizzing meant a wire wheel on a grinder, but either would be abrasive.
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@ wolfman still a nice score, I like the middle coin, it looks like it's got some pale pink tones to it. How much was each dollar? Since silver spot has been dropping, I don't know what an average dollar goes for. I know I was paying $20-$22 each in 2012 and silver was $33 an ounce. Now it's around $18 an ounce and I've no idea. I still see the silver $'s selling on ebay for $20 each.
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With postage I paid $14.50 each, which was junk silver price at the time. Spot has dropped and come back up since then. I will get some more the next time it dips.
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