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1883 Liberty Nickel W/O Cents

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 Posted 09/12/2007  09:46 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Ralph to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I got this 1883 Liberty nickel W/O Cents for my Type Album, but it's not a series I'm all that familiar with when it comes to grading. I believe it to be Extra Fine - 40 or 45 (not sure just which). What do you think?

Ralph



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 Posted 09/12/2007  10:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, Ralph. From the pics it looks to be EF, so you're probably right on. I can't tell if there's enough detail to get to AU-50 or not. There seems to be weakness in the "bus" of e pluribus unum on the reverse that is either from the quality of the picture, from wear, or from a weak strike.

gotta love those Liberty nickels.
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Thanks hunter20ga. I think there is just a little too much wear (and no mint luster) to warrant an AU grade. The entire coin (obverse and reverse) exhibits some minor wear. As for pluribus on the reverse, the your and bus all appear weaker than the rest of the coin giving me cause to believe it may be due to a weakness in the strike rather than wear. Overall, I believe the grade is XF-40. Any other opinions?
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 Posted 09/12/2007  5:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prethen to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Choice XF
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 Posted 09/12/2007  7:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll chime in with XF-45. BTW, is that a die clash on the obverse at about 7 o'colock running through the star and towards the date?
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 Posted 09/12/2007  7:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ken_3567 - die crack. In fact, it's two seperate cracks - the one you pointed out, and another beginning at the rim, going through the bottom of the 1 in the date, and ending at the bottom of the first 8.
I think it's a pretty cool coin, all in all.

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 Posted 09/13/2007  07:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add halfabustisbetter to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice, appears to be a solid XF. An excellent example of one of my favorite coins--nice work .
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Here's another one with the same die cracks. This one I bought back in about 1979 or 1980.
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 Posted 09/13/2007  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
too cool hunter20ga - might have been stamped from the same die
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 Posted 09/13/2007  11:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bonedigger to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Either EF-40 or XF-45.

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 Posted 09/13/2007  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Ralph...I'm reasonably certain that it was. I don't have a good picture of the reverse to compare, but if I recall correctly, it looks very similar to your's. I've seen at least one other on ebay, and nearly bought it....just couldn't rationalize trying to "corner the market" on a variety that no one cares about. LOL

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This seems to be a series that hasn't caught on with alot of folks, and I have to admit I haven't concentrated on this set as much as some others, but I've been able to, over a period of time, put together a set of 32 so far - still missing the '85, '86, and '12-S - figured I'd try to put a set together before too many other collectors decided it would be a pretty spiffy little set to have. If, and when, that happens, the prices will go beyond a poor boy's budget.

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I've got the 12-s, but not the 85 and 86. I still have some that I would like to upgrade, as well. I would like the entire set in VF or better. Ah well, it's already a bit of a strain on the budget. At least the three keys are if you're looking for them in intermediate and higher grades.
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 Posted 09/13/2007  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ralph to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Boy! Don't I know that? I have several sets that I've been able to complete, and I have several sets near completion, but missing those expensive key dates.
But.....Every once in awhile (when the moon is right :) or something) that coin you've been looking for for the longest time is right there in front of you at a price you can afford - great feeling, huh?
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 Posted 09/15/2007  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Stephen420 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That is incredibly cool getting the same variety (or error if you prefer) in the new coin! I was just talking with my local coin dealer and he said some people collect as many coins as possible in the same variety - characterized by a crack or pitting or something like that - to show them all in a row of diminishing die states.
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Stephen420, I've found from watching, listening, and reading that there are no limitations when it comes to this hobby. I guess we should all be thankful for that. If we all collected the exact same thing, there'd be some of us that would have to do without. Wonderful hobby, isn't it?

Ralph
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