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 Posted 12/21/2014  11:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westernsky to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It sure would be nice to see the owner/creator of the "Silver Dollar Ranch Hoard" magically show up and share the inside story behind his good fortune.

We could then explain to him about how he is leaving money on the table by not searching those jars. Heck, who knows, he may even have an 1804 dollar or "could an unknown 6th example of a 1913 V nickel" be hiding in one of them!

Could there possibly be a crimped, bank wrapped roll of 1916 Standing Liberty quarters in the middle of one jar? Sealed there almost 100 years ago when the original owner stopped by his local branch bank and asked for a roll of the new X rated quarters "with the lady's breast showing?" Who knows. It could've happened. Maybe.

The owner could also be a distant relative of P T Barnum, too!
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 Posted 12/21/2014  12:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Searching through feedback I can't find any jars. But there are a lot on this ongoing jamboree:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/HUGE-ESTATE...291285901654

The feedback is mostly positive. Most people like it. Take a chance and maybe win a 2001 Sacagawea. It's the same thrill as winning an ashtray playing dime-in-a-dish at the fair. Or winning a dollar at scratch-its at the jiffy mart.

Why did anyone slab junk like this in the first place?
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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12/21/2014 12:52 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2014  1:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Groszy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
At least he's using an era-appropriate mason jar. It's a good thing they aren't produced anymore. Only so many to go around.
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 Posted 12/21/2014  6:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Joe2007 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Oh how I would just love to find one of those coins in his jar among the recently sold listings on ebay.


I'd expect unless a seller is really brazen they would purchase the coins for these jars through private treaty from wholesalers or brick and mortar coin dealers, not online where there might be photos and records of the previous transaction.

All of the big money coins in these jars are either heavily worn or are problem coins, I find that fact very persuasive.


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At least he's using an era-appropriate mason jar. It's a good thing they aren't produced anymore. Only so many to go around.


There are probably tons of them out there. A few years ago I was at a farm auction and there was a building that was filled with them being sold, literally thousands of them for a few hundred dollars.
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12/21/2014 6:10 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2014  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 0xDA71D to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think the item violates ebay's policy:

"A raw coin is one that hasn't been graded by a coin grading company, or has been graded, but not by an approved grading company.
Listings for raw coins must follow these guidelines:
The numeric grade (such as MS-65, VF-25) isn't included in the title, description, or item specifics of the listing.
No estimate of value (even if personal opinion) or reference to a price guide is included in the title or description.
The listing includes photos of the front and back of the coin being sold. Stock photos and images that are dark, out of focus, edited, or misleading aren't allowed.
The starting, reserve, or Buy It Now price for the coin is less than $2,500."

Moreover, ebay prohibits "grab bags" or random items.

How would one go reporting the item to ebay?
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12/21/2014 6:32 pm
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 Posted 12/21/2014  7:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Counterfeits and dodgy business like this are creating political pressure against the coin collecting hobby. The US government aids and abets the nonsense by churning out new issues and special sets designed to feed the collectibles market.

My dad was an easy mark. He bought dozens of those proof sets which now list for $5.99 on ebay. Very poor value proposition, backed by 91 cents worth of full faith and credit.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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 Posted 12/21/2014  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add edweather to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here we go again....

....I thought you were going to mention the new ebay listings of original Morgan Rolls
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 Posted 12/22/2014  04:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This is just the old "unsearched original bank roll" con taken to
the next level, so to speak. No one, especially a coin dealer, pays
money for a mason jar full of coins, and doesn't search it.

As for reporting this guy, or trying to stop him, there's no way
ebay will allow that to happen. Have you looked at this guy's history
with ebay? He makes them a lot of money! No way ebay stops that.
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 Posted 12/22/2014  04:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cruisinfusion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Some bidders are just disgustingly stupid.

Truly.
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 Posted 12/22/2014  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And we are to expect that some senile old hoarder has multiple $100-5,000 coins in his/her collection... and tosses them all haphazardly in a jar?

I am curious to see what filler coins are in these jars, though. I see a lot of nickels... wonder if they're lower-grade V/buffalo nickels, junk dateless buffers, or 1964s.
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 Posted 12/22/2014  11:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ratio411 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah, the description says the coins go to 1964. How convenient!
I'll bet every hoarder that started stashing silver coins in 1964
was also throwing 1804 dollars and 1877 IHCs in the jars with them!
LoL
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