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Vietnam
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Hi, Last week I joined the forum and the first question about a US coin was on a Peace dollar 1921. Now it's about a 1921 Morgan dollar  Could you help me to check if it's genuine? It has some types of cracks (?) on reverse, above UNITED and across the eagle. It weighs 26.715 grs.    Edited by vietnam-numismatique
12/30/2014 03:26 am
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Looks fine to me, albeit with some damage.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Looks fake to me. Hate to disagree with MorganGrader. The breast feathers look odd. The whole coin just doesn't look right to me.
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Canada
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They changed some designs in 1921 compared to the older Morgans but I don't know what they changed. Weight looks like it's within tolerance, normal is 26.73g.
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Valued Member
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Apparently, edweather has never seen a '21 Morgan up close. It's real.
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Valued Member
 Vietnam
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I have tried its "ding" sound and I think it's like other silver coins. I just do not know what has caused those cracks on its reverse.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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OK, it's very possible I'm wrong. Funny, I have one or two, but you're right, I've obviously not looked closely at them. The eagle looks creepy, like they plucked his breast feathers.
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United States
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Rest in Peace
United States
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It looks like a legitimate D2 reverse coin with environmental damage.
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Moderator
 United States
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I see nothing worrisome about the features on the coin but that "die crack" through the wing is unique and unknown to me on a 1921 Morgan. As large as it is, I wonder why it hasn't been seen before. Vietnam-numismatique, could that line possibly be part of the darker stuff above it, or a postmint accident? The die cracks at the letters are typical, but this one is not and I'd probably know if such a crack existed on a 1921.
This is not certain, though.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Unless it's just your images the surfaces look lifeless.
I suspect it was dipped.
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United States
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Unless it's just your images the surfaces look lifeless.
I think partly the images, and partly what I'd expect of the finish on a 1921. They are not known for "regular" Morgan luster; a lustrous 1921 Morgan is not as scarce as a lustrous Peace dollar but certainly other than normal. All the same, the images do present the precise appearance of an overdipped coin. |
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Vietnam
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Hi SsuperDdave,
They are not die cracks, i.e they are not raised lines. Maybe I had used the wrong words, it should be broken lines on the coins. I think it's not the problem of dies.
The dark places above the eagle I also think it was dipped into some types of liquid, but I don't think such could cause those broken lines.
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United States
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OK, then I am comfortable with the authenticity of your coin.
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United States
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I'm not seeing any obvious red flags and the reeding looks at about the right ratio (which is probably the most *consistent* thing counterfeiters botch). 1921 Morgans are simply odd creatures compared to other Morgan dollars, and the damage doesn't help. :-) Despite the fact that I haven't been able to examine is in-hand, I'd say it's very unlikely a fake. Edited by SteveCaruso
12/30/2014 09:32 am
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United States
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In view of Steve's comment about the denticles: it bears mentioning that macro photography alters perspective to a much shorter scale. You can see this, for instance, in a group of two or three coins imaged at once where one coin appears smaller than the others. We've seen it before here. It also manifests in what appear to be denticle differences - on this coin, the setup camera-coin is just slightly offset towards the bottom and as a result you can see slight differences in the denticles top to bottom.
This is an optical illusion, and you can expect - in this case - for the lower denticles to represent the actual look, which is correct for a genuine coin. Just another illustration of the fact that evaluating coins and evaluating coin images are separate skills.
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