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1970 Nickel Dollar, Which One To Keep?

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Coin 1:

1970-Nickel-Dollar,-Which-One-To-Keep?

1970-Nickel-Dollar,-Which-One-To-Keep?
(sorry for the differently lit obv photo, I took it earlier and didn't realise it was blurry until I transferred it to my computer)

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1970-Nickel-Dollar,-Which-One-To-Keep?

1970-Nickel-Dollar,-Which-One-To-Keep?
(much cleaner fields, but more hits on bust)

Are the two front petals ever fully struck on business strikes?
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Keep number 2.
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# 2
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I like #2 better, but I would keep both.
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I have to go with number 2 also. The fields are as scratched up on it.
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#2
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#2 it is.
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Definitely #2
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Ya #2
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Depends what you want. Almost all 1970 dollars are weakly struck, it is very hard to get a gem grade in that year from PCGS. That said, #1 is struck better, #2 is a better grade (if you ignore the weak strike).
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I saw the weak strike on the second one so I asked here, but it seems that the vote for #2 is unanimous. Does strike quality still matter at these grades?

Since the weak strikes happen most on the high relief coins, does it mean they have too much to fill in the die and not enough metal in the planchet?
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Weak strikes mean that not enough pressure was used to strike the coins.
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Will the coin end up thicker when weakly struck?
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No idea... if they are, they would only be microns thicker. Generally, the collar die does not meet the other dies fully in weak strikes, you don't get that nice sharp edge in weakly struck coins...
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So if the collar die doesn't meet the other dies, a cross-section will look like this?

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Look at the middle coin, in this thread, as an example of a weaker strike with the collar die included. This is your thread, ironically...

https://goccf.com/t/175784
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