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Well it's definitely "not" the inverted 9 over 9. The markers are just not there. It would help the experts (and I'm not one)..if you could post larger clearer parts of the coin on both sides. Hint  ..best to have the lens perfectly parallel to the coins surface as much as possible. Take a lot of pics and discard the bad ones.. If we could make out some markers ,..then we could offer a better "guess".. |
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Refer to my previous post. It is a recognized and identified
narrow nine variety. The cloudiness and wear on the coin
distorts the features enough to speculate about wishful thinking.
Research Dr. Haxby's site and examine and compare this with known
nine over nine varieties. Incidently, the hollow of the nine
appears oval on the narrow nines and more circular on the nine over
eight varieties. The hollow on this thread is narrow.
doug
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Colonialtokens;
Is the 1859 you posted in the "possible error" post the same one you sent for grading? Wss it your red/brown that scored MS64?
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can you try and clean the inside of the 9 and take a close up shot of the 9 and post it?
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See heres where I'm conflicted...I would LOVE to clean out the digits, but everything ive been tought tells me not to. I absolutely do not want to give this coin the "cleaned" tag, but it almost seems necessary for identification. ..IF it was a valuable variety hidden by dirt, could that possibly obershadow the fact it was cleaned? I have SERIOUS reservations and any advice would be greatly appreciated!
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Luc: It's not a 9/8 or 9/6 or any other repunching on the 9. It's (your 2nd one) just a regular narrow 9. You can't wish the coin to be something else by just looking at a single digit. As Doug says, the 9 in a 9/8 has an almost round center in the upper loop and is a larger font. The regular narrow 9 is oval or football shaped. Also, as I mentioned before about the vine breaks at 7 & 2. All 9/8's will have a narrow vine break at 7 because these were made shortly after the 58's and the hub hadn't started chipping yet. Your 2nd coin has a wide gap at 7, so no cigar.
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Im not trying to varify if its a 9/8. Not the issue for me. What I'm trying to figure out is what variety they are... I can definately 100% without a doubt see SOMETHING under the 9 in the second coin...I agree my pictures aren't the best so that might be the reason for mixed opinions. Lets say it is not a 9/8 or 9/9 or any listed double-punch, what then could cause the rounded die lines under my 9 (coin #2)? The only reason I assumed it was an 8 underneath is because I follow the "ghost" lines and they seem to be consistent of an 8 digit. I know I cant ID the variety by just the 9, I am simply looking for a starting point.
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I would just recommend that you go, as suggested, to Dr Haxby's site and see what variety that it is. People have already given you hints on what it may be. There are 100's of '59 varieties, regardless how narrow that you place the definition of "variety". Not 10% of them have a name and it takes a little less worn coin to see for sure. Good luck.
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I think I figured out the die pair...PLEASE CONFIRM
PC59-521. It has the same double punch 5, die cracks are consistent as well as the stem/leaf of leaf 9. Any thoughts?
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Die combination J-11...what would the short hand name of this die pair be? I do not know how haxby's numbers translate to catalog? Please someone explain!
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UncleLuc
Reply to your Query
I did not post the 59 Vicky, but did reply to the post. It is not my coin.
Query response
As with all research,Dr. Haxby's site is a work in progress. Dr. Haxby created
his unique numbering system to encompass the hundreds of die marriages. Each
obverse and reverse is provided an independent identifier. The site is user
doug
friendly.
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I am now left wondering if coin #1 is in fact a...
Major vaiety- Charlton/Zoell #R2a...can anyone confirm this?
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