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Storage, Toning, Need Advice

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 Posted 01/11/2015  5:41 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add aeliza to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
sorry if this is an old topic for many of you. After looking at my collection for the first time in many years I am not happy to find toning on just about everything. Most collections are in the Dansco albums of which the jeffersons are the worst. There is also some on practically every proof set and a couple of the silver eagle proofs. the 2x2 flips seems to have fared the best even over the air-tites.

so now that I've done it wrong all these years, I need to correct this going forward. I do live in a humid climate in the southeast now which I'm sure is the cause. I have limited space so they need to stored in a box in a closet.

would just putting silica gel packs in the box work or should I use an archival box in addition? should I take the proof sets out of the original packaging and store it elsewhere? put albums in ziplock bags? move them to the first floor where its cooler in summer? Although I never thought it was humid in the house, I am assuming it is more environment and not the albums or what holder they are in. any advice would be most welcomed. these pictures are of the worst ones.

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Storage,-Toning,-Need-Advice

Storage,-Toning,-Need-Advice
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 Posted 01/11/2015  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Boliver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you need humidity control there are different size permanent dehumidifiers you can buy that have beads that change colors, when the beads turn pink you plug it into a 120 volt outlet until they change back to desired color ready to use again. I have one in my gun safe where I also store coins. I bought mine from Amazon and there are sizes for use in any size box, safe closet etc. you need. Very cost effective.
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 Posted 01/11/2015  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Primarily place any coins you want to preserve in Zip Lock Plastic bags. Push out as much air as possible before closing.
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Buy yourself a whole bunch of clip lock plastic bags of various sizes. Throw a small bag of silica gel in each bag with the coins.
If you can, get yourself an ammo case or similar to put the plastic bags in, and put the ammo cases if possible, in the driest part of the house.

Almost all of my coins are in 2x2's in polypropylene album pages. I could make an improvement to the coins' environment by using clip lock plastic bags. Fortunately for me, humidity is not a huge issue.

The more valuable of my coins that do not 'live' in my safe, are stored in metal camera cases or converted metal beauty cases. Looks elegant and easily stored.
An old suitcase with coins in, shoved under a bed could also be a reasonable storage approach.

For those coins that are already toned, best to love them as they are.

Even .900 fine gold coins can tone over a period of decades, when not protected.
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Not for nothing , but wouldn't the zip lock bags have pvc considering they are soft plastic ? it's a great idea and I would use them , but ?
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No PVC in ziplock bags. Just Carl contacted the manufacture to confirm this. Here is a link to that thread.
https://goccf.com/t/53424#422475

Edit: Fixed the link
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Plastic bags including the clip lock variety, are made from polyethylene, not PVC (Poly Vinyl Chloride).

You can get UN Plasticized PVC, but that material is opaqued white with titanium dioxide, and is used for plastic sewer and stormwater pipes.

Other safe-for-coins clear plastics are:
PVA Poly Vinyl Acetate - used for food containers. I suspect that Itercept Shield uses this material for clear slide windows.
Poly Propylene - used for album pages
Mylar - used for album pages.
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I have limited space so they need to stored in a box in a closet...
The box could be a problem. What else is in the closet? Ziploc type bags will help.
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There are mostly other boxes in the closet. I'm thinking I will move them to the first floor and maybe get a couple archival storage boxes. Will also do the ziplock bags and maybe vacuum seal some.

so if cardboard is an issue would it be beneficial to take the proof sets out of cardboard boxes they came in and store those separately away from the coins or am I over doing it?
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so if cardboard is an issue would it be beneficial to take the proof sets out of cardboard boxes they came in and store those separately away from the coins or am I over doing it?
It can only help, but I do not think it is necessary. I am sure some will disagree. For what it is worth, most of my proof coins have been moved to Dansco albums. The few exceptions are commemorative sets, which all reside in their original packaging.

The main thing to remember is that the more you do to separate the coins from the environment, the better they will be.
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Used Army ammo cases seem wonderful for storing coins, since they are made to haul metal. When I first started collecting, I bought a couple for that purpose.

But, when I opened them up, I could believe the strong noxious odor, chemical, explosive? It was bad, so I left them open for a couple of months to air out. During that time, someone mentioned on a forum about the bad chemicals in those ammo cans.

So, don't use them for coins.
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