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New Member
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Question: help me describe the type and name of the minting error that created this dime.
This is my story about a Roosevelt silver Dime with a steel minting ring, the ring has 2 or more clamping slots near the edge that allows the knurl pattern to be seen, the ring matches the dime knurl pattern.
Hello, New to this site. I have searched Google for a dime I found in our garden in the 1960's. Odd thing about this dime, has a minting ring attached. I am at a loss as to what to search for, though writing this post has given me a few more words to describe. I haven't seen the dime in over 30 years, so excuse me for not having pictures. I know my dad still has the dime in his collection. He received a 55 gallon barrel in about 1960 from a wwii friend needing to store. Just a few months ago I found out the mystery, that guy died soon after dropping the barrel off. Anyway, unknown to us kids the barrel was being stored in the Goat house, and the goats would pee on the lid, eventually rotting out. I was hoeing in our garden, and found this dime. Dad figured it was his, or the guy's and added to his collection. Next visit I will take pictures of it.
I I searched many Dime error photos on google, but haven't found a similar error. Please help.
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Moderator
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Sounds like a steel ring was added to the dime after it left mint, maybe for a key ring. Pictures would be very helpful. When you have pictures, here is the tutorial about uploading and posting images |
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New Member
 United States
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Could be post minting. Pictures would be helpful. Looks similar to (I've heard of) Dryer Coins, though the steel ring is obvious, and the slots in the steel, unbroken ring, and the visual of the knurl pattern embedded in the Ring and the dime made me think it somehow got out of the minting with that knurl die still attached. Pictures will be helpful, and hopefully I will post some in the next few weeks when I have a chance to drive the 650 miles to my dads place. Edited by Opticell
01/12/2015 9:48 pm
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United States
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Maybe your Dad can send you a picture or mail the coin to you  |
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New Member
United States
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I don't want seem to be avoiding you. I do plan to get the pictures, but asking my 89 yo Dad to find and take pictures, or find and send the coin is near impossible. It will be challenge enough to get his approval to photograph, he tends to be very possessive, more so with my other brothers than me. It is a challenge for him to stand up from his living room chair. I promise I will get pictures my next visit. Guess I was hoping someone here have already known of this error and could supply a picture of a similar case in the meantime, or decipher my lack of knowledge description and translate my words. My searches used these terms as I got closer to finding: "Roosevelt" "Dime" "Ring" "Mint(ing)" "error" "silver" "molding" "die(cast)" "press(ed)", some of these searches taught me more of common errors, but was frustrating that my type didn't show up. Thank you for responding, sorry I am not prepared.
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That's okay. We were not all born with knowledge about coins (except maybe SsuperDdave and jbuck  ). I have never seen what you are describing, but I would bet someone on this forum has and they will respond.  |
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New Member
United States
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Not a picture yet, but this is my drawing. The edge of the ring has (maybe 4, I can't remember exactly) slots in the steel, like a window, that allow the knurl of the dime and matching knurl of the die to be seen inside the (window or slot). Sorry, first image attempting link, having problems getting it formatted correctly from my dropbox. http://www.dropbox.com/s/6w3caja6z2....15.jpg?dl=0 Edited by Opticell
01/12/2015 11:22 pm
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Rest in Peace
United States
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You probably aren't finding information in your search with minting ring because there is no such thing. No ring like this was used in the minting process. I sounds like your dime had a ring attached to it outside of the mint for some reason. If so this type of ring would be called a bezel. It could have had a loop to wear it on a necklace or bracelet but the loop broke off. But this is just a guess. Hopefully your dad will let you take pictures and then we could give you more accurate answers.
Also, welcome to the forum!
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New Member
United States
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Thanks pyrbob. This search brings up many similar bezels (thanks for the term) and saw one image with four cuts in the bezel that could be clamping areas. I'll be back in a month or so with pictures. Thanks all for the help. I finally figured out the image upload, though it is not needed, I will upload the previous image as practice:  Mike Edited by Opticell
01/14/2015 2:12 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Unfortunately, I am not aware of anything that could occur during the minting process that would result in the appearance that you describe. No knurling is involved with coins. The reeding is applied with a third die at the time of striking, it is known as the collar. A collar is a large piece of steel placed horizontally between the vertically oriented obverse and reverse dies and there is no way for it to remain with a struck coin, see below image of a US Mint quarter collar now owned by Moonlight Mint-  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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As a tool and die maker I think the pic of the collar is cool. Still no pic of the dime yet?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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That is a ringto make it a fob. Simple jewellery item.
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New Member
United States
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Thanks guys. I have learned much in this short time. Correct use of terminology and wording make a big difference. I was able to search using these terms and helped see more similar dimes. Yes, the picture will come I promise, but I will notify you when I get to my Dad's place in the next month or so, sorry for the terrible delay. Personally, I am glad I posted now, as can undo 40 years of thinking it was a piece of minting die. The above picture of the third die is impressive, and makes perfect sense.
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