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Indian Cent On Ebay- Forgery?

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I think the buyer of this coin is likely to be very sorry, if they ever figure it out. Based on the bidding, it looks like a high bidder retracted, leaving the fellow with the "72" ebay rating with the top 10 bids.

I see signs of spark erosion, not to mention that this coin if legit is no more than an XF 40-45. Seller doesn't accept returns. Uhuh.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/22165321498...RK:MEBIDX:IT
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 Posted 01/14/2015  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Two words. Bad denticles. Too many people neglect to look at the denticles of a coin. If the denticles don't look even that's a bad sign. Denticles are also important when grading and are paramount when attributing coins.
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 Posted 01/14/2015  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thecoinguy1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pardon my ignorance, but what are "denticles" of a coin?
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 Posted 01/14/2015  7:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From the CCF Glossary


Quote:
denticles:

The tooth-like devices around the rim seen on many coins. Originally these are somewhat irregular, later much more uniform - the result of better preparatory and striking machinery.



Once the US Mint started using a closed collar coining system, the denticles should have a uniform appearance.
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 Posted 01/14/2015  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can find the exact coin on Aliexpress.
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 Posted 01/14/2015  8:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Celticsoul to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should have been more precise when I made my statement about the denticles of a coin. The little teeth-like edges of coins from the 19th century are called denticles and as MeadowviewCollector's quote states early coins (pre 1836) have denticles that are a little uneven. My bad. Coins after 1836 should have even regular denticles. Many times counterfeiters can't reproduce the denticles well and that's one thing to look for when determining the authenticity of a coin. The coin in question has irregular denticles which is the first thing that tipped me off that this is a fake.
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 Posted 01/14/2015  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pennynickelguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In every picture, the S is out of focus. Even fuzzy, it looks too big to me.
But how could anyone purchase that coin with such terrible photos? At least the spark erosion was in focus!!
And I also agree, denticles seem to be a weak spot for a lot of these nasty fakes.
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Most certainly fake. Ugh.
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I don't know about fake but the images are sure poor.
Maybe that's to cover up it being fake.
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Any time you see a raw key date or semi key for sale on ebay with a no return policy and blurry pictures, it is a sure indication that there is a problem with the coin.
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 Posted 01/15/2015  07:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shermae to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
He is now selling a 1909-s. What is the correct link that allows detailed descriptions when reporting items to ebay?
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 Posted 01/15/2015  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There isn't one. There use to be bu ebay shut it down months ago.
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ebay should be ashamed of themselves for not allowing the easy reporting of obvious Chinese fakes like this.

Then again, the ability to express "ashamed" implies one can feel shame, which ebay obviously does not.

These Chinese knockoffs are going to eventually kill this hobby.
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I just used the link found elsewhere here in CCF and had no problem reporting details about the fakes.

http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAP...5&rmvSB=true
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Check this one out, about to end...http://www.ebay.com/itm/38111683138...RK:MEBIDX:IT
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That's nice. I could probably make a coin that bad in my garage.
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