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1996 D Doubled Die?

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Can someone tell me if this is a doubled die or just Machine Doubling?

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 Posted 01/14/2015  5:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add John1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think it's either. Looks like worn die to me.
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Looks it is the result of split plating above the devices. When the pressure is too strong, the strike split the plating between the rim devices and the rim. With even a slight split, the air gets under the plating and start the zinc to deteriorate. I've seen worse examples:
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Great post, coop! All the info in one neat and tidy post!
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Thanks. I try to get the right image at the right time. I have over 3,500+ images on my image host. And still adding to it daily. I've got images for questions not even asked yet. LOL
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I added lines to what I was seeing, the "S" was the biggest thing for me as it looks like split serifs.

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Coop, I was hoping you would reply to this post. I enjoy your pictures and overlays. I learn a lot from you. Thanks.
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I probably have some of those Coop, any examples?
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To me it looked like the master die was starting to make a die and it wasn't centered/tight so they didn't go through a full impression and then they moved/tightened it. I'm just curious if this is even possible. I kept it just in case, but am fully willing to spend it too ;-)
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The master die is a long way up the line from the die:
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It maybe a combination of split plating and a machine damage in the same strike? But either way, it is not a die issue.
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Gotcha, thanks. I knew the master was up the line and was made from the master hub. I couldn't remember if there were more hubs made before a working die or not.
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Would it be worth anything I have one also only its severe way off the mark
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Jerry: On your coin it is actually a different cause that made the date have a shadow. On your coin, it is die wear on that area. The split plating is often just too much pressure during the strike that pierces the plating and the zinc is starting to deteriorate. Could I add your image to my educational file? That is a great example of die wear.
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Absolutely.. OK die wear huh. Going to put this off to the side then. Uh any value do to this effect?
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also have a 95 d that is pretty strong like this too.theyre Doubled in other places as well
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