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 Posted 01/17/2015  9:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsfreeworld to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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GERMANICVS you always have the coolest copper


I'll up the ante on that statement and say that Germanics has the best raw late 18th/early 19th century coinage seen on this forum in one collection. Copper, silver and beautiful originals at that.

It never ceases to impress me when you present a new coin and share with us sir.

I love the attribution and diagnostic education as well on this series. Good to know. At R2, what kind of premium to the variety hound?
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 Posted 01/18/2015  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi dsfreeworld and thank you for your kind words.

To answer your question as to what premium if any do increasing 'R' ratings deserve among copper collectors - it varies from collector to collector and from variety to variety. BUT, it is generally acknowledged among copper collectors that only R4 and above merit significant premiums.

Of course, there are many exceptions to that - for example, S-264 is R4+ and yet it commands multiples of what S-261 at R4 brings.
Another one is S-48 (1794 with Starred Reverse) - it is 'only' R-5, yet even an ag3 specimen will cost a collector up to $10K.
There are more such examples.
Maybe other copper fans can add their own comments to these.
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 Posted 01/29/2015  04:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Love it, not sure how I missed this one Germanicvs! I'd go VF30/35 on this one, and one heck of a cool die crack. Some verdi-care may be in order to lessen the light corrosion I see around the date and in the leaves on the wreath (just a thought). I also like it as Verdi-care provides some protection against moisture on the surfaces.

Question, do you brush your coppers? I haven't done so with any of mine yet, as none of them are in good enough shape to really benefit from a brushing but I plan to discuss this subject at the EAC grading seminar in a couple months.
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 Posted 01/29/2015  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GERMANICVS to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi westcoin, good idea about the Verdi-care. I have some of that stuff and will give it a try. Interestingly, the areas of corrosion around the date only became visible when I tike a photo of the coin. On hand you cannot see them.

Regarding the brushing of coppers - I have often read about it, and actually bought a camels hair brush and some Coin-Care at Summer FUN a couple of years ago. But, I have never done it, and would be very curious to try. I have an S-82 which was lacquered when I bought it, and inexplicably decided to strip away the lacker a few years ago. I regret that because what lay beneath is not lifeless and dull looking. Everybody makes mistakes......would definitely like to brush and restore that otherwise scarce S-82 to restore some of the appeal.
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