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I recently dropped off some coins to get graded at ANACs and hoped all would be problem free, but we know how that works. Anyway, I haven't picked them up yet but on the website it shows one as details, scratched. I have had this coin for over a year and it's a high AU late 1800's Canadian cent and noticed no scratch or scratches. I guess I could have missed something but if it was a details grade you figure the scratch would be obvious. I'm wondering how to handle this, obviously if I missed it no biggie(another bad buy), but has anyone ever had a coin damaged after you drop it off for grading? I figured I would look at it before I left ANACs and see if it was something I could have missed or if it looks like a new scratch. Then either leave if I know I missed it or talk to someone about the scratch happening after I dropped it off. Just not sure how to handle this. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't know what to suggest, but if it looks like a new scratch definitely take it up with them. sometimes we miss something that does not stand out, that might be seen by a grader.
What I usually do before submitting coins to ANACS is to have pre-submission photo's on file. Nice sharp pics that I can enlarge on the computer.

If you have any of that coin, it might be wise to review them and point it out.

Maybe someone else has a better suggestion.
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Hopefully you have some photos of the coin. It is a bit odd that you didn't see a scratch big enough to give it a details grade. Keep us posted.
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It's one of the few coins I didn't photo and I purchased it on ebay but of course the photo is gone now due to the old transaction. I emailed the seller just to see if he had a photo, but haven't heard and I doubt he would anyway. I'm almost hoping I messed up on this one so I don't have to deal with an issue today. Ugh
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I don't see how a photograph would protect you, as it could be argued that you damaged the coin more recently, and simply used an old referral photograph to attempt to get reimbursed.

This is their business, if we really think that they do anything with a coin that had a remote chance of scratching it, we need to stop sending them coins.
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True. But accidents do happen. We'll see what happens. I hope I was at fault and obviously I am less experienced than them. I will let all know. Thanks
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I purchased it on ebay but of course the photo is gone now due to the old transaction.


This is why I always save all photos of every item I win, coin or not, to a folder on my computer.

They look like this: /2015 ebay Purchases/coins/eBay-123456789-1864LM rotated/

That way I have the item number, and a short description so I can find it quickly if I need the photo, I also like to check that I received the same coin I purchased in auction. I buy a lot so it helps me to keep track of things easier. I suggest everyone buying does the same thing.
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Actually all digital pictures nowadays are imbedded with the metadata, and technically the actual picture date could be figured out. Also on another note, there is a highly regarded TPG here in Canada ICCS, which specialize in our own coins.

However the grading is considered harder, and the coding is slightly different.
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I saw the coin and on the reverse it has two very small hits, I wouldn't even call them scratches. I needed my 5x magnifier with a light to make them out. I talked with them about it and they agreed to show the graders again and see what they could do. I really can't believe that those hits/scratches are bad enough to give this coin a details grade. They were extremely nice and had no issues with me questioning it. Thanks so much for all your input. By the way Westcoin, I have started in the last year to save photos of all my purchases from ebay, HA or Stacks. However not as detailed as you do, I think I will start labeling them like you do. I thank you all.
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By the way Westcoin, I have started in the last year to save photos of all my purchases from ebay, HA or Stacks.

Great idea! The labeling isn't too tough, I just copy the ebay number from the auction and paste onto folder names, I had to go back after a few months of purchases and add the descriptions, as it was getting out of hand, with no real idea of where a photo was, without a short description. I've also been going back as far as ebay allows me to, and adding the price I paid including shipping, less any ebay bucks discounts I may have used. I'm not so good about keeping all my data with some of the low end coins I purchase for my 2¢ die marriage collection, need to work on that!

Sometimes the sellers photos stink, but something is better than nothing, I try to save every photo they post, at the highest resolution they have available. Some cases I've had to use the developer mode in a browser to find the higher resolution shots, but usually I can force them to open without resorting to all that work.
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