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Is This Bag Mark On Liberty's Face A Deal Breaker?

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Is-This-Bag-Mark-On-Liberty's-Face-A-Deal-Breaker?

Is the bag mark on her face a deal breaker for anyone here? The rest of the coin is pristine, but that mark really takes away from her beauty.
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It may not be a deal breaker but it is a problem.
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That's a crying shame right there.

What's the grade?
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The coin is raw. It would still pass as Mint State as there is no wear on the coin, but not sure how the bag mark affects the grade of the coin.

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Is-This-Bag-Mark-On-Liberty's-Face-A-Deal-Breaker?
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Just for your information you might want to read the following thread.
https://goccf.com/t/68896
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It looks like it may have other problems with the surfaces as well (take a look at the fields around 4 o'clock)

Also, this particular seller is notorious for taking "nice" photographs of problem coins and passing them off as problem-free. As with most of his coins, there's a good reason that it's not in a TPG holder.
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I have purchased from this seller before, kept some returned others. They do offer a rock solid money back guarantee. One issue I have found though, is that they will stop auctions if the coins do not reach a certain price, which again is terrible business practice. I always bid accordingly and will return anything that isn't as promised.
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Thank you Kefiroth, I didn't really look at that particular field too closely. This one is going to be a pass
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I have purchased from this seller several times and always received the coin that was advertised. As for the mark, is it a deal breaker? No, but it is a price killer so take that into consideration.
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I have purchased from this seller several times and always received the coin that was advertised.


Nothing stopping someone from dealing with these people as long as you're very good at interpreting digital photography.
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I almost wonder at times if it would be possible for some really good jewelry person to fix things like that. Sure ruins what looks like a great coin.
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 Posted 01/21/2015  2:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mendelman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The mark is less concerning than the overall surface of the coin.

It looks overdipped and not original at all. Or the photo severely muted the luster.
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The mark on the cheek regardless of what other issues the coin may or may not have is enough to not buy the coin no matter what the price may be. It is too noticeable and distracting and as such is what I would consider a problem coin.

If you are considering buying a coin with such a mark in a very prominent location you have to think about how that will affect its marketability when the time comes to sell it.

It is a common date so you should not have a problem locating another which does not have the problems this one has at a reasonable price.
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Yeah, that would cause me to pay way less than value on it. Not to mention the scratches on the bottom right side of the obv. Not a horrible coin, but not a front line piece either. Maybe at half value. Maybe.

As a side note, I have purchased from them as well. They have no hassle returns and never had an issue. I would have no problems telling someone to buy a coin from them.
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The coin does appear to have mint state details, but the hit to the face is unfortunate. I personally would pass on it unless the price is low. I'm not sure if those are light cleaning marks by Liberty's foot or not.

I purchased two BU 19th century silver coins from GSC several years ago and was happy with both, but have not bid on any of their coins since after reading some of the criticisms leveled against them.

I've noticed they've stopped listing coins as BU, BU+++ and so forth.
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I feel like GSC auctions always sell for more than they are worth.
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