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How Does An "Eac Grade" Differ From An Ordinary TPG Grade?

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I'm collecting large cents, so I should know this, but I don't.

From what I can tell, an eac grade would just mean taking the TPG grade, then tightening it up a bit for things like unattractive color, stains, or uneven wear - things a TPG may not take poisn't off over?

I suppose it's just a way for the eac community to be a bit more strict - like holding themselves to a higher standard?
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I have seen EAC grading as well...
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 Posted 01/23/2015  10:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tryna to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
EAC Early American Copper

http://www.eacs.org/

Tends to be more strict than many of the TPG. You can get to their grading guide on the above link.
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Cool....
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You're correct Scott. The Early American Copper Society's grades are stricter than normal TPG's standards. Sometimes they are very strict. An EAC grader will drop a coin 5 points for say porosity, another 5 points for odd color, and so on. That's why you may see a large cent that has a "market grade" of say XF-40 get an EAC grade of VF-25 or VF-30. At first I was a little frustrated when EAC members would consistently under grade my copper coins. I personally just joined EAC myself so I'll have to tighten my standards to remain in good standing. I recently posted a coin in the grading forum and asked for an EAC grade. Basically I'm asking the opinions of the hardcore copper collectors.
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Thanks Celtic.

Yeah, that book at the link Tryna posted looks like it would be very helpful to us.
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In general you start with a strict grading based on the detail sharpness still present on the coin and make deductions from that grade based on any problems or defects present on the coin. One way to approach EAC grading is to look at the coin, say a large cent with XF-40 sharpness but a few problems and ask yourself "Would I pay problem free XF-40 money for this coin?" No, what about problem free VF-35 money? No, VF-30?, VF25? VF-20? Yes, Id be willing to pay VF-20 money for it. Then you have an XF-40 net 20 coin, or some would say EAC VF-20. I prefer to give both the sharpness and net grades because that gives the buyer information on the amount of wear and the seriousness of the deductions. If you just say it is an EAC VF-20, it could be a 20 with no deductions, and XF-40 with some deductions or a MS coin with bad deductions.

To get a feel for EAC grading you might try going through Heritage's large cent archives. Most of them are slabbed so you have the TPG grades but most of them will also have an EAC grade given by Mark Borchardt. EAC grade will almost always be lower than TPG grades, but on occasion I have seen a EAC grade HIGHER than the TPG.
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Check some of them dealers out in the links on that EAC link guys. Lots of great stuff there. Much of it out of my budget, but quite a few nice coins within budget too.

Scratch that, check out them dealers in early February after my next payday. . . .
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Nice explanation Condor!
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EAC just published a nice grading guide that explains a lot about EAC grading, I highly recommend it to any US copper collector.
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Quote:
Why are round coins kept in square flips, and why are round pizzas put into square boxes?
Good one.
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Joined EAC a while back - got the book that you mentioned. A very good read and great group of excellent copper pictures with detailed explanations. There were a few dates/varieties that I would have liked to have been included in it but a first class publication nevertheless. If you collect early coppers it will give you a new way to look at them. Highly recommended :)
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What conder said :-)
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