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How Far Back Can We Go? Third Edition! Ended At 1487 Waiting On 1486

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Jbuck- since I'll be gone for all of July and would miss a lot of the thread, I'm inclined to go with your decision, but if a lot of people want to start soon I'm fine with that.
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but if a lot of people want to start soon I'm fine with that.


I'd vote for waiting to see how well this thread progresses through the 1500s. If it looks like it's progressing at one year every two or three weeks, start the next thread late this year, looking for a 2017 coin. If it looks like this thread will catch up with the older one sometime next year, hold off on the new thread.
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I'd vote for waiting to see how well this thread progresses through the 1500s. If it looks like it's progressing at one year every two or three weeks, start the next thread late this year, looking for a 2017 coin. If it looks like this thread will catch up with the older one sometime next year, hold off on the new thread.

If it breezes through the 1500s with all the Hungarian denars the way the second thread did, it might yet catch up this year.

(Incidentally, 1600 time! I do have an 1600 coin, but don't have a photo of it, so I'm out until 1599. Then I'm out until 1521 unless I make a photo of something else from the 16th century.)
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Incidentally, 1600 time!
Yes, we should not lose focus.
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Incidentally, 1600 time!


I have a 1600 ready to upload right after midnight (I suppose I could upload it now, by the rules). I guess we'll see your 1599 on Saturday, to start the 1500s. After the 1600, I have nothing more until 1596.

Hopefully EddieDiz will show up with all those denars so the thread can progress quickly back to 1503.
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I suppose I could upload it now, by the rules


I'm very much looking forward to it!
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I'm very much looking forward to it!


If you're expecting something special, you'll probably be disappointed. Anyway, here it is:

Germany/Pfalz Zweibrucken -- 1600 3 kreuzer:

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I guess this closes out any more postings from the 17th century, and paves the way for the 1500s. I only have a couple of coins from each decade of the 1500s, and they're mostly Hungarian denars, Polish 3 grosz, Lithuanian 1/2 groschen, etc. My next post will be for 1596.
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nice!
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Very nice!


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Hopefully EddieDiz will show up with all those denars so the thread can progress quickly back to 1503.
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@Numisma: A year ago I prepared some posts and asked Jbuck to post the while I was away, which he has done with pleasure...

And WOOOW, nice 3 kreuzer!

Perhaps a second edition coins/decade from 1500?
I have some nice medieval coins that I would like to show....
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I can bring us into the 1500s, with this Albus from the German Archbishopric of Trier. It was minted in Coblenz and the attributions are Saurma 2665 and Krause KM#A8.

You may have recognized this coin as I had previously posted in here:

https://goccf.com/t/258871&whichpage=16




How-Far-Back-Can-We-Go?-Third-Edition!-Ended-At-1487-Waiting-On-1486

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I guess you missed this thread...

https://goccf.com/t/258871


Yes indeed I missed it...

(But catching up....)
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I wanted to wait until someone else posted a coin from 1599 - I wasn't sure this one would count! It's fully identifiable to a single year, and that year corresponds to 1599.
There's actually a date on it. It just didn't show up properly.

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Um, that's a coin? It looks like a misshapen bit of metal.
It's a wire kopek. That's the normal shape for these.
You said there's a date.
There is. It's on the obverse. Lower right.
There's just a bunch of letters there. And a horse. I think.
Yes, that's the date. Well, not the horse, obviously.
I kind of guessed it wasn't the horse.
Okay. So that digit that looks like a P, it's a hundred...
Wait, you said it's 1599. What's a hundred doing there? And since when a hundred is a digit in the first place?
You'll see.
Okay. So if that's a hundred, then these two letters to the left of it must mean fifteen...
What? No, that's not part of the date at all. That's the mintmark. It means Pskov.
Then where the rest of the date is? Tnere's nothing else.
Well, not on the coin, obviously. I checked the catalogue, and that mint only made one date for that ruler. There should be a seven just right of this...
A seven.
Yes, a seven. It would look like a 3, if it was there, anyway.
Since when there's a seven in the date 1599? And since when does a seven look like a 3? And since when a hundred is a digit? And...
Oh, sorry. I thought I explained this.
You didn't, or I wouldn't be asking.
Anyway, forget I said 1599, it will come up in a moment anyway.
Okay.
So there's a hundred and a seven, which in total would mean a hundred and seven - you're still with me, right?
Yes...
Okay, so the people who made this coin thought that of course it was obvious what the millenium is. I mean, of course everyone knows that it's seven thousand, right?
I can imagine they would've thought that, yes.
So they didn't put the seven thousand on the coin, but together with the 107 they did put, that makes this the year...
7107, right?
Yes, 7107. And it's a bit complicated to explain, so I'll just say that this is 1599 in the normal calendar.
That was a bit anticlimactic.
Sorry.


...And I'm also sorry for this little bit of self-dialogue, but I just felt like writing something like that.
In any case, Boris Fedorovich - you can kind of see this on the reverse - Godunov, Tsar of Russia, 7107 AM (1599 AD), wire kopek. Pskov mint.
I actually forgot the specific catalog reference, but suffice to say it was the only date Pskov mint made for Boris Godunov. Or the only with those dies, anyway.

Also sorry for the photo quality. This photo was made for the "alphabetic ancients" thread; I wanted to post the coin for B day, and I didn't have anything better than a ch*rping webcam to make the photo with.
Hey, you try to make a photo of a tiny irregular coin with a webcam. I'm surprised that it actually came out legibly.
(But just for the record: yes, as far as I can recall, the rest of the date wasn't really visible in hand either. [I hadn't seen the coin in years, so I'm not very confident.] This isn't just the photo quailty.)
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